91 posts from Friday, June 9, 2023

If the president in power can just jail his political opponents, which is what Joe Biden is trying to do tonight, we don't have a republic anymore. We don't have the rule of law. We don't have the constitution. Our constitution is built on the basic rule of law and due process, and nobody should be in doubt of what's happening tonight. Joe Biden and his cronies are trying to take out their chief political opponent. This has never happened before in American history, Laura. We are in dangerous, dangerous waters, and it is because of Joe Biden. Now, Senator, lots of commentators on some of the other networks were making the point that, oh, well, Merrick Garland and Joe Biden have never talked about this. There's no pressure being brought to bear from the White House and DOJ, totally independent. But let me tell you, remember from April of last year, The New York Times reported that Biden, quote, said privately that he wanted Mr. Garland to act less like a ponderous judge and more like a prosecutor who's willing to take decisive action over the events of January 6th. And that was about the January 6th issue, but they always claim that Biden's hands are clean. But clearly Merrick Garland, if he's able to read and he's very smart, so he does read, they know what Biden wants done here. They know what has to be done before this election takes place. Well, this is the same group of people that said when it came to calling parents domestic terrorists, that the White House had nothing to do with it. And it turns out the White House wrote the letter. The White House told DOJ, you go after the parents. You know, that's what they're doing here. I don't buy for a second that the White House isn't involved in this. Of course they are. And by the way, Merrick Garland has the ultimate sign off here. This guy isn't an independent counsel. He reports to Merrick Garland. So Merrick Garland has signed off on this, the indictment of a political opponent by a sitting president. It's just unprecedented, Laura, and I can't emphasize enough how much danger this puts our country in from the rule of law. This is banana republic stuff. And Joe Biden has led us straight there. He will do anything to hold on to power. That's the message of tonight. And I'm just going back to, you know, Senate leadership here. You cannot, as an office holder in the Republican party, sit by, even if you can't stand Trump for policy reasons, personal, whatever it is. This is your moment to step forward and say, we can't allow this to continue to happen to our institutions, not to the Justice Department, the FBI, CIA, Intel. We can't continue this because you're right, banana republic. This is what they, this is what Putin does. This is what she does. This is not what we do in our country. We have elections, allow the election to take place. But Mitch McConnell, this is your moment, my friend. Let's hear from you tonight. I would just say that this is not about Donald Trump, ultimately. This is about the United States of America. This is about whether the Constitution is still real in this country. This is about whether any American, any American, can expect the due process of law. And make no mistake, if Merrick Garland can send a SWAT team to the homes of pro-life Catholics to terrorize them, if he can call parents domestic terrorists, if he can jail or try to jail Biden's political opponents, he can do whatever he wants to any American. That is what this is about. And that's now what we're fighting for. And do you also share my concern that this is a warning shot fired across the bow by the FBI and the DOJ to anyone? And Ron DeSantis, anyone like him who has more of a populist, a point of view, not an establishment point of view, has a real shot at the presidency. Don't get too close. Watch out. We will come for you and we will never stop until we relentlessly pursue you until you give up. That's what I think is going on here more than anything. I think it's about that. Oh, it's pure power grab. It is pure power grab by the people in power, by the Biden people. And I just come back to the fact that this is an administration that will stop at nothing to silence their political opponents. They will turn the FBI on parents. They will turn the FBI on Catholic parishes and try to spy on them. They will turn the FBI on pro-life Christians, social media companies. They will use everything they have to try and shut down political opposition right up to indicting their chief political opponent. I mean, this is not the United States. If this is allowed to stand, we cannot allow it to stand. And that's what this next election is going to be about, Senator. Do you have any confidence that Senate leadership will at least come close to expressing your frustration and deep concern about the Republic tonight? I don't know. I can't speak for anybody else, Laura, and I've given up predicting what any other senator might do. But I can just say for myself that I think this is a critical moment in our history as a nation. And this is the time to stand up and say we're going to fight for the rule of law.

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They're going to see it as they're going after Trump, but if they can get Trump, it means they can get you, they can get me, they can get all of us. He is standing in the way, and that can sound like a campaign slogan, but it's very true. So he disrupted everything they were up to, and they know a second term of Trump is the overturning of the table, the exposing of everything they've done. Sean, you know, I was on your program the night that Alvin Bragg brought the indictment as well, and I remember saying, and I'll say it again, I mean, this is a terrible night for our Republican, our Constitution, and our justice system, but as it pertains to the Republican primary, Republicans will rally around Donald Trump. I think every single Republican nominee should be down in Miami on Tuesday night standing behind, standing for justice in the country, saying, "Hey, I may be running for president." Mike Pence, Tim Scott, Nikki Haley, whoever, Ron DeSantis, but this is injustice. This should not stand. Now, I don't think they have a chance now considering what Trump is up against. This will only strengthen him, but it's not about Trump. It's about our system, and he's been willing to expose it. They've targeted him, and this will only serve to rally voters behind him, Sean, in the Republican nominee process, because they realize what's at stake. Everything Mark Levin laid out, everything Greg Jarrett laid out, everything all the lawyers laid out beautifully, is the fragile nature of our republic, and Donald Trump has said, "I will expose it. I will take it on. I will take the arrows," and they're sending the entire weight of the federal government against him, and if they can do that, they could do it to all of us. That's what's at stake, and that's why I think it makes him stronger as a nominee.

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All these obstruction issues that they claim, where the former attorney general, Bill Barr, comes up here and blow the eights about it, and all the formers coming on talking about obstruction, they have them on obstruction. There'd be no obstruction issue of any kind, not even in anybody's imagination, had they not criminalized this case. This is a document case, a document case where a president of the United States, where a former president faces a hundred years in federal prison. Is this some kind of a sick joke on the American people? Joe Biden says he never told them what to do. Joe Biden had to sign off on that's becoming a National Archives case to have it go to the Department of Justice. Who does he think he's lying to? The American people? This is a guy that's got documents from the time he was in the U.S. Senate, for God's sake, in his garage. I don't want to hear from the legal analysts, the technicalities about false statements and obstruction. This should never have been a criminal case. Willful retention of documents. Well, what's the un-willful retention of documents mean? They're throwing all these process crimes and all these crimes that grow out of the criminal investigation against Trump. What did he do with the documents? Did he sell them to the enemy? No, that's why we have an Espionage Act, not the trick of a president. What did he do? Did he burn them all? No, the government has all the documents back. So there is no violation of the Presidential Records Act at this point, but they throw the book at him. They go after his attorneys. They make them testify. They're attorneys under the crime fraud exemption to attorney-client privilege. That means he didn't have due process. His own lawyers were being subjected to interrogations, and they had hundreds of in-person people testifying in front of grand juries. Thousands of collections of documents for what? For what? And they indict them today? They indict them today in Miami? All of a sudden it's in Miami? All of a sudden we have a Florida grand jury? Because the moron in Washington figured out that there are venue issues that could lose him his case. This guy, this prosecutor, he lost 8-0 in the U.S. Supreme Court when they overturned the conviction of the former governor of Virginia because this jerk took a statute and expanded it. A jury in North Carolina wouldn't convict John Edwards because this jerk took a campaign statute and expanded it. And he's taken this case, and he's undermining the country, and he's interfering with a presidential election. And let me be clear, as Jared said, the attorney general of the United States made this final decision. This is not the independent counsel statute. This is a special counsel appointed by the attorney general under a Department of Justice regulation. This attorney general, who pretends he's Helen Keller, he made the decision to indict the former president, and they made the decision to interfere in this election. You want to talk about an insurrection? This is an insurrection, and that's exactly what's going on here. Let me go on. Joe Biden is the crookedest crook that's ever been in the Oval Office. Everywhere we look, there's a predicate for a special counsel. They won't appoint a special counsel, even though it's compelled under the law in which they appointed this special counsel, and you're not supposed to appoint a special counsel against your political opponent. You're supposed to appoint one in the case of Biden, 20 shell corporations, $10 million coming from the communist Chinese military, spread out among the family, no businesses to support this, endless meetings, endless meetings with Hunter Biden's business partners. Bob Olinsky, who ties Joe Biden to the crimes, Mr. Big, Mr. 10%. And what does Biden say? Well, then where's the money? He's asking us, come and catch me if you can. The idea that this man is an under a criminal investigation, and that they criminalized a damn document case to go after Donald Trump is sickening. And I would say this to our fellow Americans, don't be bamboozled by these cable channels and these fools who come on and tell you, well, he's not above the law. Are you kidding me? Democrat attorney general in New York, Democrat prosecutor in Manhattan, Democrat prosecutor in Atlanta, Democrat attorney general in Washington, DC. What do you mean he's not above the law? There is no law. What's going on here is a disgusting disgrace. It is war on Trump, it is war on the Republican party, and it is a war on the Republic. The radical left is doing what the radical left does while they cover up for Biden the way they covered up for Hillary. If Donald Trump is to be charged like this, Hillary Clinton should have been charged with 10,000 counts of obstruction because that's how many emails she destroyed and five counts of destroying cell phones because that's how many cell phones they destroyed. I'm done and I'm sick of it.

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Anyway, Congressman Comer, thank you, and let's talk about specifically, you were just about to, as of today or yesterday, bring the Director Ray into contempt of Congress. It became unnecessary because he finally gave into your demand. Now, my understanding is that this particular source that you cited in your original letter along with Charles Grassley is viewed as a very credible source. The allegation seems real. They apparently have had it since 2017. It deals specifically with the country of Ukraine, and it talks about specific actions that Joe Biden might have taken in exchange for a lot of money. What specifically can you tell us? Well, I can tell you that the FBI has had this since 2017. This particular 1023 that I was able to grant access for my entire committee today, it's dated June 30th of 2020. You go back through the document and their footnotes that reference two prior years. They were communicating with this paid informant for years. According to the FBI, this is one of their most highest paid, most respected, most trusted, most effective human informants. What we learned is what the whistleblowers told Senator Grassley all along. The FBI never investigated this, but we did learn that Attorney General Barr, when he received this particular 1023 that was up for viewing today for the House Oversight Committee, he passed it along to the US Attorney in Delaware who was investigating Hunter Biden. Remember, this 1023 didn't just implicate Joe Biden, it also implicated his son. What's interesting to me when I read the document was the fact that this was years before our work on the Oversight Committee brought out the fact that the Biden family were using multiple banks and multiple shell companies to launder money from foreign nationals. No one knew about this back in 2020. This has only become a revelation since our committee has brought it to light in the last few months. No one knew about these shell companies, but it specifically says by their trusted human informant that the payor of these bribes bragged that the way Biden wanted the money distributed, it would be through so many banks that it would take investigators 10 years to track the money. I can tell you Sean, it's taken us a long time to track the money, but we are tracking the money. We're finding money from China. We found money from Romania and we will find this money from Ukraine. So you believe there's a total of $10 million involved in all of this and this has been ongoing since 2017 and the FBI has had this the whole time and they've never done a full investigation into this? That's what it appears to be. Now what Attorney General Barr said, he passed it along to the US Attorney in Delaware. My theory, Sean, is that the US Attorney in Delaware had never even really paid attention to this until the last two weeks. Now according to the FBI, when I had that private briefing with Jamie Raskins who had to feel uncomfortable sitting in there listening to all of that information that we were receiving from the FBI considering he led an impeachment of Donald Trump for simply asking about corruption in Ukraine. The FBI is talking about all these credible accusations they have with respect to corruption in Ukraine from the Biden family. We believe that these banks will show that the money was laundered through shell companies, more shell companies. So we're going to continue to try to subpoena the banks. Congressman, we're looking for more shell companies and we'll find out. Yes. All right. Americans now watch Hillary Clinton with top secret classified information on our servers but no prosecutor or prosecutor. They watched "obstruction" by the deletion of 33,000 subpoenaed emails and the destruction of devices that might have had some of that information on them. Nobody seemed to get upset or in any way, shape, manner, or form. Now you've got four separate locations. Top secret classified information with Joe Biden. Okay. They raid Mar-a-Lago. They didn't raid Chappaqua. They didn't raid Delaware. They didn't raid UPenn. They didn't raid the Beach House. But it's Donald Trump that has Mar-a-Lago raided and Donald Trump that gets charged for what seems like the exact same allegations. Do you see much difference? No. Look, Joe Biden has mishandled classified documents in a much more severe manner than Donald Trump ever mishandled classified documents. What we've learned about this form, 1023, again, the FBI never investigated it. But this is a pattern of the FBI not investigating anything with respect to Biden. Look at what they had with the Steele dossier, which was no credible source, compared to what they have with this 1023 on Joe Biden from their most trusted credible source. And then, Sean, I want you to think about this, two things. First of all, they wouldn't even admit that this document existed until Senator Grassley and I told Christopher Wray that we had already read the document from the whistleblower. So then once I got to view the document, it was apparent there were more documents. Even as early as Monday, when they gave me the briefing for 90 minutes, the FBI tried to say there were no more documents. When we were negotiating last night on postponing this motion to hold them in contempt, they finally admitted there are more 1023s on Biden and bribery, and they're going to let me see those now. So we're making progress with the FBI. The FBI clearly has treated Joe Biden very differently than they're treating Donald Trump. But thankfully for the American people, the House Oversight Committee is on top of this. We're uncovering the banks, we're uncovering the shell companies. These are things that we will continue to push forward on. Based on all these LLCs that you keep describing and the amount of money that's being shifted around here, there, and everywhere, and the number of countries that you've identified that the Biden family was doing business with, and you're right about the Ukraine issue because Joe bragged about leveraging a billion dollars, demanding a prosecutor be fired in six hours. Prosecutor turns out to be investigating his son and the company paying him a fortune barista, the barista energy giant. So at the end of the day, my question to you, do you have any earthly idea how many millions of dollars we might be talking about between Hunter and Devin Archer and Joe Biden and the nine family members that you say ultimately got payments as well, including apparently grandkids, they must be very smart if they're getting some of the money as well. Well it's consistent with organized crime. You've got racketeering, you've got money laundering, you've got bribery, but I would estimate Sean that we've already uncovered 10 million. I would say that number could top out at 20 million plus when this is all said and done. We're going to continue to focus. We've got more banks that we're focusing in on with subpoenas. And just the last thing, Sean, think about this. According to Bill Barr and according to FBI, this 1023 being passed over to the US attorney in Delaware means that Joe Biden is currently under investigation for bribery by a US attorney. I know that gets lost in translation, but that's what Bill Barr and the FBI said that document is in the hands of the US attorney in Delaware. It is interesting that the DOJ charging President Trump on this issue of classified documents, they haven't been particularly cooperative, the FBI and the DOJ with your request, be it for suspicious activity reports or this 1023 form, they have not been particularly cooperative and forthcoming with information and you've been spent like pulling teeth. We appreciate your time, sir. Thank you.

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because I don't think you would have supported charges for Hillary or Joe Biden either, would you? No, I don't think we should be criminalizing these decisions to take either accidentally or deliberately material home. I believe that every single president in my lifetime, every single president has taken some classified material with him. And remember, a president doesn't have to cooperate with people he believes are trying to get him. You have to show that he crossed the line into criminal obstruction. That defendants are entitled to be tough and to play hardball and to say, look, I'm not cooperating. I'm pleading the fifth. I'm pleading the fourth. I'm pleading the sixth. I'm getting tough lawyers. We're going to fight this. You don't have to be of Joe Biden and roll over and cooperate with the government. It is no crime to be tough and to resist. You have to show that there was a corrupt motive. And if President Trump believes he had declassified the material before he left the White House, then he had no obligation to turn them over to the archives. So I agree with Greg. This is a civil case that should have been resolved civilly. And this better pass a very high standard if we're going to accept the administration going after people who are running against them. You know how serious that is when you have one administration criminalizing the actions of the person who threatens to undo the administration, to make sure that Merrick Garland doesn't hold on to his job and the people at the top of the Justice Department don't hold on to their job. You have to have the highest standards. That's why I call it the Nixon standard. Remember, they went after Nixon not because the Democrats wanted him out of office, but because his own party, the Republicans, believed that he had obstructed justice. Let's see if this gets bipartisan support.

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Two systems of justice, Sean, one for Donald Trump and one for everybody else. Merrick Garland, the attorney general, is criminalizing a civil dispute over documents that's governed exclusively by a civil statute. The Presidential Records Act, that act, means anything created during a presidency, whether it's classified or not, can be maintained by a former president, period. But instead of seeking an injunction, let's say, or production of records in a civil court, let a judge hash it out, Garland chose to bastardize the law by raiding Trump's home and then seeking an indictment today. And it didn't matter that Trump was following the very same standard established by the Department of Justice itself a decade ago in the Bill Clinton case who kept classified documents. It was a standard endorsed by a federal court in Washington. The president can keep what he wants, but Garland didn't like that and he doesn't care about the law, so he abandoned his own precedent because it's Donald Trump. This is selective prosecution. It is unequal justice. Yeah, it's okay for Hillary to mishandle classified documents, no charges, for Joe Biden to do the same. But if Donald Trump does it, it's a high crime.

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The 45th president of the United States, the leading 2024 candidate, Donald J. Trump, has now been indicted by Joe Biden's Department of Justice. Now, for the very first time in American history, a sitting president, DOJ, has indicted his top political rival ahead of a presidential campaign. Now, here is Donald Trump just a few moments ago. Take a look. Very sadly, we're a nation in decline, and yet they go after a popular president, a president that got more votes than any sitting president in the history of our country by far, and did much better the second time in the election than the first, and they go after him on a box of his hooks, just like the Russia, Russia, Russia hooks, and all of the others. It's just been going good for seven years that they can't stop because it's election interference at the highest level. There's never been anything like what's happened. I'm an innocent man, I'm an innocent person. They had the Mueller hooks, the Mueller report, and that came out no collusion after two and a half years that was set up by Hillary Clinton and Democrats, but this is what they do. This is what they do so well, if they would devote their energies to honesty and integrity, will be a lot better for our country. They could do a lot better, they could do a lot of great things. Now on Truth Social, he also wrote, quote, "The corrupt Biden administration has informed my attorneys that I have been indicted seemingly over the box's hooks, even though Joe Biden has 1,850 boxes at the University of Delaware, additional boxes in Chinatown and DC, more boxes at the UPenn Biden Center, and documents strewn all over his garage floor, where he parks his Corvette, and which is secured by only a garage door that is paper thin, and open up much of the time." He continues, quote, "I have been summoned to appear at the federal courthouse in Miami on Tuesday at 3 p.m., I never thought it possible that such a thing could happen to a former president of the United States, who received far more many votes than any sitting president in the history of our country, and is currently leading by far all candidates, both Democrat and Republican, in the polls of the 2024 presidential election. I am an innocent man. This is indeed a dark day for the United States of America. We are a country in serious and rapid decline, but together we'll make America great again." Now, President Trump has been indicted on seven counts, that much we know, all related to his handling of those classified documents, and quote, "what we call process crimes, obstruction of justice." Meanwhile, absolutely no charges against Joe Biden, even top-secret classified documents from as far back as his time as senator. That turned up in multiple locations, utilized by Joe, including an unsecured office building in D.C., and Biden's very own garage. Apparently, mishandling top-secret documents is okay. If you're a Biden or a Clinton, or I guess a Democrat for that matter, Hillary mishandled America's secrets on an unsecured private server that we were told was likely hacked by foreign countries, and then she attempted to cover her tracks by deleting 33,000 emails, wiping hard drives on computers off with something called "bleach bit," kind of acid-washing the hard drives, and then, of course, destroying phones and blackberries with hammers and removing SIM cards. But according to Jim Comey, no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges against Hillary Clinton. Now, of course, it is a very different story. When it comes to Trump, he is now facing multiple charges because of a few documents from his own presidency stored in a secure room at Mar-a-Lago with a padlock on the door. By the way, I'll say about this room, a room that the FBI previously had access to, unfettered access, and as a matter of fact, had the opportunity to remove items if they wanted to. The only thing they requested was to put a second lock on the door, a padlock, that was complied with by the Trump people down at Mar-a-Lago. Meanwhile, Joe Biden can store similar documents in a box in a wide open garage. Nobody seems to care. And let's not forget about the 2016 allegations of bribery against Joe Biden from the "trusted, confidential human source" that even the Obama-Biden administration ended up paying on occasion. According to FoxNews.com, the source detailed conversations with a barista executive to the FBI, this executive reportedly referred to Hunter as dumb, but quote, "had to pay the Bidens because Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin was investigating Burisma, and it would be difficult, how difficult it would be to enter the U.S. market in the midst of that investigation." Now, that was, of course, the very same Ukrainian prosecutor that Biden ultimately demanded be fired by leveraging $1 billion taxpayer dollars. The source claimed that a $5 million payment was directed to Joe Biden and another $5 million payment to Hunter Biden. But as FoxNews.com reports, these payments, they weren't direct payments, instead they were made, quote, "through so many different bank accounts that investigators would not be able to unravel this for at least 10 years." Now, again, these are allegations made by a confidential human source. That's the 1023 form we've been talking about, who has worked with the FBI for years, trusted by the FBI. The FBI paid this individual $200,000 for some of his intel. And yet, as far as we know, the DOJ is not pursuing a case against Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, the big eye, or anybody. Instead, it's his Republican challenger, Donald Trump, who is now facing the wrath of the DOJ surrounding the storage of documents from his very own presidency. Yes, it is a dark day in America. We've said it often. There's no equal justice, there's no equal application of our laws. There's one set of rules for Democrats, another set of rules for Donald Trump and conservatives, and anybody, especially in his orbit. Our system of justice has now been weaponized beyond belief, and this country is in serious trouble.

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I want to bring in now Pastor Robert Jeffress, who says the indictment certainly will not affect Trump's evangelical support. Jeffress says he texted Trump just moments ago, and he's with me now. So Pastor, first of all, what did you say to the former president? Well, I said, first of all, there are millions of Christians that are praying for him right now. They love President Trump. He's the most pro-life, pro-religious, liberty president in history. But I also said that he is immunized against any indictment because of the Durham report. The Durham report showed that the Russia investigation was a complete hoax and political. And look, Harris, we've seen this over the last seven years. Since the time he descended the escalator and Trump Tower, we've seen people either try to keep him from office or to remove him out of office. And the same thing is happening right now. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that the left looks at Trump's polls increasing. He is going to be the GOP nominee, as Nancy May said. And I'll go one step further. They know he will be the next president of the United States. They know they can't defeat him at the ballot box. So the Biden administration, knowing they've got a weak and perhaps corrupt president, they're going to try to keep him out of office another way. I predict, Harris, it's not going to work. I think evangelical Christians are going to turn out in droves now to support this president. And I'm saying tonight, this is a reset. This is a reset. I think it's time for all evangelical Christians. It's time for all Republicans to get behind the candidate who has the best chance of defeating Biden and turn out in record numbers. Pastor Jeffers, I want to just bring something up. We lost a light today in the spiritual world, Pat Robertson. And his lifetime was probably the first time that we had seen as a nation. He died today at 93. So this would have been decades in the making of infusing faith into politics. In fact, he's often credited with having put politics and religion together for Christian conservatives in this country for the Republican Party. And I want to get the reaction from you now because you talk politics. You talk pulpit. I mean, these things are fusing together. And just your thoughts on today. Well, Pat Robertson will always be known as a pioneer broadcaster, a former presidential candidate himself. But what he's best known for is melding the world of politics and the world of religion. Remember, prior to 1979, when he started the Christian coalition, most Christians bought into the lie that faith and politics should be kept separate. Pat Robertson showed that our faith ought to impact everything we do, including how we vote.

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Stephen Miller is a former senior advisor to President Trump. He joins me now. Stephen, I am looking down to read something here. It's a House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan's reaction to Trump's indictment. It's a sad day for America. God bless President Trump. Thank you for joining me during the breaking news. There are people in the Republican Party now that seem to be coalescing around this former president. Is it possible that Democrats have just tipped Pandora's box politically? Well, I sure hope that that's exactly what happens, that the whole of the Republican Party, the whole of the conservative movement, and the whole of the country that cares about the rule of law coalesces around President Trump in this moment. Let me first say on a personal note as someone that was there with President Trump in 2016, flying all around the country, going state to state, to serve in the White House every single day for all four years of the administration. This is a sad day for me personally, as someone who has so much affection and so much admiration for President Trump, who has seen him up close and personal on what a heart he has for this country. Let me also say that I believe history will record today as the day that we cease to be a Democratic Republic and we became a people ruled by an unelected government bureaucracy. You have the Department of Justice deciding who can be president and who cannot be president. It is not a coincidence, as you talked about, that this comes out, this indictment comes out on the same day that we have credible evidence of a bribery scheme that goes all the way up to Joe Biden. It is not a coincidence that this comes on the heels of a Durham report showing how the Department of Justice tried to engineer a coup against the duly elected president of the United States. It is all a message. It is a message saying we run the show, not you. This is our country, not yours. We make the decisions and we get to decide who runs this government. I truly believe that's what's at stake here. - Steven, when you were with the president and you were right next to him and you went around the country, you just explained all of that, did you glimpse any of this could be a possibility? I have to imagine that millions of Americans, no matter how they vote, are in shock tonight. - Sadly, I did glimpse that this kind of persecution would be a possibility because I saw how he represented a mortal threat to the system of business that has governed this country, to the corrupt establishment that has allowed our foreign policy to give away our jobs and our security to China, that has erased our Southern border, that's handed over our decision-making to international tribunals, and that has allowed the rule of law to disintegrate before our very eyes. So yes, I knew, I knew that those who had profited off the system would do anything they could to stop them. I think the most important question for every citizen watching tonight is this. Why are all the forces trying to destroy this country so hell-bent on stopping Donald Trump, so hell-bent on putting him in jail, so hell-bent on framing him as they have since the beginning of the Russia hosts? And I submit the answer is because they know if he gets back into the White House, that he will stop them. - You know, I wanna talk to you about that because we have visited tonight with several people, including the former acting Attorney General under President Trump. It is hard to fathom and heartbreaking to even consider that there would be a tit for tat, that we could as a country watch every time it changes hands politically that it's this instead of leadership of this nation. Can President do, can he do both if he were to get back in office? Can he fend this off, those non-elected officials taking over and deciding justice for all in terms of who the president should be, but also lead the country in such a way that we don't continue in this cycle? - I think in order for there to be a turning of the page, a return to normalcy as the expression goes, there's gonna have to be a complete cleaning house of the corrupt federal bureaucracy. The intelligence agencies, the security state, these are the same forces, as you've reported extensively on this network, that engage in the censorship of American speech online, interfering in our political process. So the first thing that a President Trump would do, the mission that he would give to a new Attorney General, to a new head of the FBI, to a new head of the CIA, would be to say that I'm going to give you a daily progress report on cleaning out everyone from your agencies that is engaged in this heinous conduct between the American people. That is going to be the mission. That's going to be the core mission. - That should have been done after the Durham report. That was part of the deal that the FBI said that they were gonna be part of, that we're gonna get rid of what didn't go well and what got political at the top levels of the FBI against the former President Donald Trump. We're gonna clean all that up. It has not happened, obviously, to the satisfaction of what you would anticipate it to look like on a night like tonight. - The corrupt will never clean themselves up. And that's why, again, this is about the democratic process. This is the last hope to have a country where the American people don't have the illusion of control, but the reality of control. And that means electing a president who is going to impose discipline on the entirety of the security state in this country. And remember, President Trump has nothing left to lose. He has nothing left to lose. So all that's left to be done is to fight this battle and to reform this government. - Real quickly, Stephen, can he still campaign while all this is going on? He's gotta go to Miami. He's got things coming up with cases. What's your opinion on that? - Well, that's the point, though, isn't it? Is that this does interfere with his ability to campaign. It does interfere with his ability to crisscross the country as he did so many times before. And that is the point, but he will fight through it. And we will discover whether or not in this country there is indeed a triumph for the forces of good over the forces of repression that we have seen in recent weeks and months.

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Matthew Whitaker just said something that I want to start with. He said that, you know, what we found out about the FBI investigation into President Trump was a hoax. But it was worse than that, Victor. What we found out it was that they had been politicized, weaponizing things against this former president from the top levels of the FBI. Your thoughts? That's exactly right, Harrison. It was even worse than that because we now know that Hillary Clinton hired a foreign national, which is a felony, to work on a campaign. And she hid those payments to Christopher Steele through the DNC, Perkins Coley, and Fusion GPS. And she destroyed materials that were under subpoena and that there was no FBI reaction at all. We know that James Comey knew that the dossier was fraudulent because his agency had offered a million dollars to find one credible iota of evidence. And when they couldn't do it, he still tried to delude a FISA justice by presenting that as evidence successfully so to get a writ. So it's this is a sad day because you see what it does, Harris, it it destroys all the credibility of the United States as a moral arbiter of democracy and constitutional government. How can we tell anybody in Asia or Africa or South America what they should be doing as far as jurisprudence and the rule of law? Every aspect of this Biden, Trump is asymmetrical. Trump was a president, he had that prerogative declassified. Biden was the vice president, he didn't. Trump had only had those documents for less than two years. Joe Biden knew that he had them for six years and never told anybody, nobody did anything about them. Mar-a-Lago is more secure than Joe Biden's garage. Donald Trump doesn't have a son who is erratic and is trying to weaponize or capitalize the knowledge of his father about government and his future trajectory as a political candidate for the Biden consortium profit. So it's just outrageous and I don't know what's going to happen. But I think it's going to be a baton relay because we're going to see Alvin Bragg get the baton and then we're going to see Latita James get the baton and then this Willis down in Georgia. And it's designed to destroy the person who's leading in the polls against Joe Biden. That's what countries abroad do that are unstable and corrupt. The existing administration uses the powers of government to indict his likely opponent or possible opponent in the next election. Talk to me about the players in this. I mean, you mentioned a lot of names at the FBI and those previous investigations, but we don't know as much about the current, you know, team looking at this. What we do know is that the documents, as you said, were there for two years and that there were some sort of cooperation going on at the beginning of this between the former president and those people who were investigating. Yeah, I think that's right. And we don't really what's happened in the Biden administration. They are using the power of the special counsel for political purposes. This is the second time they've done it. Remember that we got Robert Mueller because James Comey leaked a private conversation with the president of the United States, used a third party so that the media sensationalism would prompt a special counsel who just happened to be Robert Mueller, former acquaintance. And then he ate up 22 months for nothing of the Trump administration. Now we're doing a replay with this special counsel. And this is even more egregious because, again, we have the president of the United States who did the same thing, but to a greater degree. And this special counsel or the other special counsel doesn't seem to be saying anything. And I'm really worried about the reputation of the government abroad, but half the country has lost faith in the integrity of the United States government. And that's very dangerous in a democracy. It may be more than that. I think that this is equal political opportunity in terms of how people perceive things. We started with Matthew Whitaker saying that if you care about justice, it involves every American. So it shouldn't matter how you vote when you look at this. It shouldn't. And it's a long pattern, though. We saw 120 days of riot and destruction and arson, 14,000 people arrested in 2020, 35 people killed, 1,500 police officers. And really, there was no reaction. Most of those people were let go. And then we turned January 6, it was a buffoonish riot, into an existential insurrection, and we had 20,000 policemen on the streets of Washington and military rights. So all of these things are asymmetrical. And I've never seen it before in my life, that one party comes in and tries to change the nature of the permanent government to destroy the opposition. And they have been doing that systematically. They did it with Russian disinformation. They did it on the hoax, the laptop. They've done it with using GPS. And they won't stop. And I don't know how to stop them. I think the Americans are looking at this, Harrison, are saying, how do we bring back integrity to the government? And all they left seems to understand is tit for tat. So are we going to have a new and Republican administration come in and say, you know what, the only thing these people understand is like kind. If we get into that cycle, we're going to descend into a mobocracy. Yeah, you're looking at history to inform the future of other nations. And it is a cautionary tale to go forward this way, because that back and forth is something that we have been seeing as the two sides go against each other. Politically, it's gotten nastier and more divided along the way. But this is a new level. And Victor, I just want to give you a last word to compare history to where we are now, if you can. Are we able to hold together as a republic? Because that's the big question right now with this hanging in the balance, one current president facing something very similar, but treated very differently in Biden as opposed to a former president. One thing we could see is that this other special counsel says, you know what, we live by the rule of law and what the Biden family did in monetizing their member Joe Biden, who was vice president, likely a candidate for president. They made a lot of money. We're going to have a full fledged investigation. And we're going to have to apply the same standards through the papers that were taken out by Vice President Biden.

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First of all, just your initial reaction to what the former president just said, this is a dark day for this nation. - Yeah, yeah, Harris, good to be with you. It's a really sad day for our country. I mean, if you believe in the rule of law, and if you believe in equal justice under the law, this should concern you. Because we have what appears to be a completely political prosecution of the former president, the current leader for the Republican nomination, and it was a rush to get him indicted. You look at the other cases, compare this to Hunter Biden's case, Joe Biden's case, Vice President Pence's, and even Hillary Clinton. And I just, I can't see how Department of Justice isn't explaining why they're doing this case, and none of these other cases that I just mentioned. It's really a sad day, Harrison, and I think it's the stuff of Banana Republics, quite frankly. But I have to point out what the former president is saying about that garage with the papers strewn all over, and the lack of classified document security at a current president's home. All of that is true. We have pictures of where the Corvette was parked. We know that they found documents that weren't even told to the American public, weren't even told to anybody outside the Biden circle for months after they had been first found at the Penn Wharton University, Penn, with his name on it, that place at the campus, and then two of his homes. And then it was like an Easter egg hunt. I mean, every place you look, there were more documents. The president isn't wrong about complaining about that and saying that this is not fair. - No. No, and the other thing that Donald Trump also has on his side is he was president, he could have declassified these documents. That is going to have to be, I guess, litigated now. But also, they were negotiating with the National Archives. They were trying to resolve this situation. And so it's very frustrating, I'm sure, for the president and his team to think that they were resolving this presidential records issue, and all of a sudden the FBI comes in and raids, and now we have a special counsel appointed by Biden's attorney general, really what appears to be doing political work under the auspices of a special prosecutor. It's very concerning, and I join a lot of Americans that kind of have a sinking feeling that this may be the best days the United States may be behind us if this is how our political climate is going to be. - You mentioned that he could have declassified those documents. Do you know why he wouldn't have done that? - Yeah. Yeah, I don't. I mean, I think, again, it was my understanding that the special counsel put witnesses in front of the grand jury that said that Donald Trump had declassified certain documents, especially the ones that were in the presidential residence at the White House. But, you know, again, each one of these documents is gonna have a story, and each one of these documents, the federal government's going to have to explain to a jury, beyond a reasonable doubt, that President Trump couldn't have had these and shouldn't have had these, and it was illegal for him to have them. And, you know, again, we haven't seen this indictment yet, and we're told that, I guess, there's seven counts, and so I think a lot of it's gonna be in what the indictment says and then what the evidence shows. - Are you surprised, because the president says that he was first notified, you know, less than 36 hours ago. Are you surprised at the speed at which we found out about the indictment? I mean, how does this normally work? When you say that this is a dark day for America, give us some of the exceptions to the normalities that you see. - Well, first of all, the speed with which this investigation happened, you know, again, we have the Hunter Biden investigations four and a half years. Nothing has happened. We have this recent alleged bribery case when Vice President Biden, then Vice President Biden, allegedly received $5 million, and that has been languishing for years. And so, you know, it just seems like when Republicans, or especially Donald Trump, you know, is under the wheel of investigation, that they do it with post-haste, and they throw all the resources on it. But when Democrats, and especially Biden family and others, you know, are alleged to have had wrongdoing, that these investigations go nowhere. And I just, you know, it's a two-tiered system of Justice Harris, and we've talked about this before, but this is just another example, and I think it's the worst example yet of that two-tiered system of Justice. - Matthew, before we move on here, I have to ask, what's he facing? And I know we don't know the seven counts, but you know enough about this case, and you know enough about what would have been there, because we've seen pictures of the documents. I mean, some of them looked rather staged, but we've seen some of this, and we know the President has talked about it, so what could he be facing? - Yeah. Well, unfortunately, a lot of this is going to be tried in the press, we're gonna see leaks, continued leaks from the special counsel on what they believe their evidence is. And so, you know, what he's facing is, you know, a public trial, ultimately. You know, but I think, you know, Donald Trump seems to always get stronger when challenged. These types of things that would normally melt an average human being, I think, give him strength, and he continues to fight. And you know, the question I have is, is why do we continue to have these persecutions? You know, the Russia hoax is a prime example where they threw all the resources they possibly could and tried to prove anything they possibly could, and they never got a single charge out of that against Donald Trump. And I just see this as another example of that, where the Department of Justice is for some reason, probably because Donald Trump isn't beholden to anybody and can actually, you know, take this country in a better and improved direction, that that's why they're going after him, 'cause they wanna stop him in this swamp, and the people that live in it are real, and they don't like Donald Trump. - Do you think that he has the legal team around him at this point that can handle all of this? Do you see him bolstering that at all? And would you wanna be on it? - So I spent a lot of time with President Trump. I just saw him in Iowa last week. You know, he's gonna have to determine whether he has the right people and the right positions, and you know, ultimately that's his decision. You know, I would do anything to help Donald Trump right now. I'm not, but you know, I'm gonna come on Fox News and other channels just to make sure the American people understand what this case is really about. - Matthew Whitaker, former acting attorney general under the former president who's been indicted tonight. Thank you very much.

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This took $10 million in bribes, supposedly, from Ukraine. I think it's starting to get obvious what's going on here. The fact that you have the two -- this is no coincidence. I think it's clearly designed to -- you actually had questions for some of the first questions we've seen of Joe Biden about the evidence that's coming out in Congress right now about deep and widespread corruption. This is not rumors. This is not smoke. This is actual evidence of it. He's been asked about it for the first time. So you see this drop on the exact same day. I think that the two are very related. I think that -- I think that especially when you step back and you consider that the charges that they're leveling against President Trump are the exact same charges that could be levied against Joe Biden himself and a host of other Democrats, including Hillary Clinton, as well as other Republicans, and the fact that he is the only one being charged, is evidence that they're terrified of him, and they realize that if he gets the Republican nomination, he will very likely beat Joe Biden or whoever it is the Democrats put up. They are terrified. That's what that tells you.

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