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>> Let's bring in Tom Dupree. He knows it all. Former deputy assistant attorney general. Tom, always good to see you. >> Thanks Shannon. >> Okay, so I wanna read President Trump's characterization on social media about that ruling on Monday. He says total exoneration, all caps not surprising. It is clear that the Supreme Court's brilliantly written and historic decision ends all of crooked Joe Biden's witch hunts against me, including the White House and DOJ inspired civil hoaxes in New York. So let's talk about the impact because man, it was a broad, good decision for the Trump legal team, but it doesn't mean these cases are over just yet. >> That's right. Look, there's still a few steps that have to happen before these cases come to an end. But I think for the cases, the Bragg case, the significance here is that embedded deep within the Supreme Court's immunity decision was an important point, which is that prosecutors can't use evidence of a president's official act to support a prosecution even for something that's non-official. In other words, it's a rule that says this evidence can't be used in any way, shape or form. And so what's gonna happen over the next couple of months is that the prosecutors, the Trump defense team and the judge in New York are all going to have to look at what evidence came in in this trial. And was there so much evidence of this official act that it basically tainted and polluted and corrupted the entire proceeding? >> I mean, there are all kinds of conversations with White House advisors and with texts and emails and all kinds of things that as we sat through that six week or so trial, there's a lot there to unpack. So who does that? Does Judge Murchand ultimately make the decision about what should be allowed in and out? Because I gotta imagine if it doesn't go well for the Trump team and still leaves those convictions intact, they're then going to appeal Murchand's decision, which, again, delays that New York trial and potentially it's sentencing too. >> Absolutely, and look, yes, Judge Murchand is going to be the one who makes the first call as to whether this evidence requires a new trial or setting aside the conviction. But he's not going to be the last word. I suspect that honestly, whichever way he goes on this, I think you're going to see the losing side appeal that decision. And then even after the New York appellate courts have weighed in, it wouldn't surprise me if the United States Supreme Court again gets called on to make these types of decisions. So I think from the prosecutor's perspective, at least, the Supreme Court immunity decision has really upset the apple cart. >> Okay, quickly, can you give us a look at how this impacts the federal cases? We know that the January 6th Jack Smith case here in DC, this has been sent back down. They'll have to purse through all of those things in the indictment, but we've got the Mar-a-Lago case as well. Is the Trump team in good position to say, hey, this decision, the immunity case also applies to the Mar-a-Lago case and may put dents in that one too? >> Yes, I think it does. It certainly puts major dents to say the least in the January 6th Jack Smith prosecution. As far as the Mar-a-Lago case goes, I do think it will have an impact. I don't think it's as direct an impact as the January 6th case, but I think it will have an impact and that Jack Smith is going to have to go back and parse his indictment and make sure that he's not basing any charges on official acts of then President Trump. The other significant aspect, Shannon, is you know, Justice Thomas had a very significant concurrence in the immunity decision where he questioned the legitimacy of Jack Smith's appointment. I suspect that there may be some attentive judicial leaders out there, including Judge Cannon down in Florida who are paying a lot of attention to what Justice Thomas had to say about that. >> Yeah, that's something that got a little bit of attention during the Supreme Court arguments, but not much, but Justice Thomas has stayed on that point. Okay, Tom Dupree, always appreciate your time. Have a great fourth. Thanks Shannon, you too.

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