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>> All right now let's bring in the former acting ice director Ron Vitello and run this really is extraordinary information I mean you've got you've got on this letter you've got 2 full pages of offenses that more than 425,000 illegal immigrants who are allowed in this country have committed highlighted by the fact that there are 13,099 who have criminal convictions for murder. Another 1845 who have pending charges against them. 15,811 who have criminal convictions for rape or other sexual assault and an additional 4,250 who have pending charges where did the system break down. >> Well thanks for inviting me yeah, this is a symptom of the chaos that we've seen at our border during the presidency of Joe Biden and the vice presidency of Kamala Harris when they took over the illegal migration across the southwest border was at 50 year lows and now it's at unprecedented numbers for the last 3 plus years and the 9 to 10 docket which is the population that we're talking about here within within the non-detain doc that's 8 million people so even if 1% of that 8 million were a threat to public safety and obviously the numbers that you're showing those those people are putting us all at risk every city every town in the United States is at risk because we know that the that the system was overwhelmed for many many years and now a non-detain docket of 8 million people mean there are people walking among us in almost every single city and town in the United States who were not invited here the jump the wall and came into the United States illegally and applying their trade as a cartel member as a gangster of some other kind of someone who's abusing children or trafficking other human beings and that's what happens when sanctuary cities conflate with a chaotic border. We are all at risk. >> You know Ron as we learn this breaking news, I'm sure there's people at home going this is an emergency where is the DHS secretary to speak to these numbers to tell us what we're doing about it right and it's one thing to say okay, well, you know candidate Trump is pitching to fix the problem. Perhaps Kamala Harris lays out to her supporters the way she plans to fix the problem at the border. But these people are already here. >> That's right and this secretary has already stated that when they make these encounters at the border 85% of people are being released and he's greatly restricted ice's ability to go find these people and I will just tell you from experience that when people are set on a notice to appear and they can go to immigration court when they get a notice from the government which went maybe years and years from now many of them will not come because they know they don't have you know a legal right to immigrate into the United States look this is a society that that values the contributions of legal migrants across the country. But this chaos and this these kinds of staggering numbers scare people rightly so why are we going to continue to do this to ourselves when there are alternatives we can have safer streets safer communities and a border that is secure that allows people you know through the legal channels to come into the United States so we can bet them we can make sure they're not a public threat to public safety and if and when they are they are held to account and removed after they serve their state sentence or whatever the crimes they commit in our communities that's what needs to happen we need to have an immigration system that has integrity for both on the legal side and when people fall afoul of the law as illegal migrants or migrants that are here that commit crimes they need to be removed and they need to be removed expeditiously and you can see these numbers here, I mean I said only had you know a couple of 1000 people who are assigned to that work and so this is a monumental task that will need to be corrected because we cannot continue to have this chaos at the border and put our cities and towns at risk to the degree that we are. >> Hey Ron forgive me if I'm not really up on the law I came into this country as a legal immigrant 30. 2 years ago. And seem to be at the time that something like a murder conviction would make somebody ineligible to immigrate to this country either legally or illegally I mean I got my getting that wrong. >> That's correct if you can if you get convicted of murder for its is in your example, you're subject to deportation and immigration officer finds you and takes you into custody that you'll you'll have a hearing with the judge so so so so then so then why are these people still in the country. Well most of those folks that are on the non detained docket are here illegally they've been addressed at the border have been released with a notice to appear. >> Why are they still here. >> Because you have the conflagration of sanctuary cities and an immigration system that it doesn't have the kind of resources or the will frankly under this administration to to take this problem in hand and go after the worst of the worst. >> Unbelievable, I mean if I think bill religion said it this is a jaw dropper people have had enough and we saw that we see that showing up in the polling and this is this is a lot more to take in Ron thank you very much for joining us and I know

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