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>> But Greg, you know you spent a long time editing magazines ready for magazines as you know anytime you write a list it's it's the most controversial thing. >> Yeah, you should you can you can just grab anybody's attention. I'm sure CNN right now is trying to find a psychic and a Ouija board to interview dead presidents over this list because there but I think that I think Trump made a huge mistake here he's addressing the past presidents and not future ones he needs to make clear that he's not only the best and what already happened but will be the best of what will ever be. I think he really sold him sold himself short by the way no one else is going to do this so why not do it. You know his we've got to remember when you hear the word historian you think some kind of crusty well-respected person no, no, no, no, no, no, no, they're just old liberals, they're just a cluster of bold face names who are guilty of plagiarism fabricating citations they make their factual at their factual errors are countless because nobody counts them the people who certify the official history are drawn from a profession that is uniformly politically lopsided we know this of the history and media is self reinforcing and they were awarded for a moralistic tale of history that is almost never true you never get what happened and I know this now being on this planet for you know 40 years history sits in the humanities department it's the conservative to liberal ratios like one to 99 the faculty is uniformly left when they say historians agree it's because I all vote one way so why not do this why not stick a finger up their ass and make him scream by the way Trump is doing a lot of things this is fun but him doing the space force issue space Academy the trump accounts the drug prices maha Venezuela Iran tbd you can agree that he might not be the greatest president ever but no one has hit the ground running and done so much not just identifying problems with the country but actually saying let's do something about it as opposed to Democrats tearing things apart with no solution, Jessica without a doubt most consequential and most consequential in the history of all world leaders since the beginning of time except for the great Jesus Christ. None whatsoever Shannon watching him interact with the with astronauts. It's it's kind of magical to watch it is fine because you can see his real personality how much he wants to have this interaction with him admires what they do. And you know it's hard to impress him so you have these astronauts flying around is like listen you guys are brave and that's really cool. And I think as far as the list is concerned if you love and support this president you would be so disappointed if he did not put himself first you expect that he would but I also like to think think picture him sitting around like oh I cannot wait to drop this list and watch heads explode because he really enjoys doing that and I can imagine that he was like art who's going to be the first person to do the stuff that Greg is talking about to go out there be like how dare you do this list. So I think he's really going to enjoy watching the roll out of the list and I think you really enjoy is being down there in Texas where he's going after tell Rico as well which we can talk about which historian are we going to see on CNN or MS. It's already. I really can't wait for tonight. I'm already happening right now, but he's good at that kind of stuff and he's he's good at the teller ego stuff because he has no villain and it's so and listen he's so engaged the GOP loves him on the campaign trail because they feel like he's their best medicine messenger and when he has something like this to have this opponent kind of this foil to go back and forth for I think he you see how much he enjoys being out there.

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legal analyst, Greg Jarrett, former Harvard law professor, Alan Dershowitz. Let's go to the Trump issue first. Professor, we know the Supreme Court has ruled on the issue of presidential immunity. We know in this case that evidence was presented to that jury, Hope Hicks, for example, testimony given in that case directly tying Donald Trump to the time he was in the office. That case on every measure should be thrown out, a novel legal case, statute of limitations long gone for a legal NDA that was labeled an NDA and put together by a lawyer for the president. Well, this is a slam dunk for appeal, which is exactly why Greg doesn't want it to go to appeal. He wants to campaign for office next year with the scalp of Donald Trump saying, "I have him. I have him convicted by a jury. He wants to make sure when he serves as president, he's always referred to by CNN as a president who was convicted by a jury." This is an attempt to circumvent the appellate process. It's illegal. It's unethical. It's unconstitutional. It's immoral. And my advice to the Trump lawyers is if Marshawn says he's going to put this sentencing off for four years, immediately file a writ of mandamus to the appellate courts. It's a very, very appropriate writ because the writ of mandamus is designed to get review when you can't get an appeal. And here, by denying him the right to be sentenced right now, they're denying him the right to appeal because under New York law, you can't appeal until you have a final judgment. And a final judgment means a sentence. So this is an attempt to circumvent the law. It's an attempt to put Greg above the law. And I think the courts will hold him responsible and will do the right thing and reverse this conviction on appeal. Do you agree with that, Greg Jarrett? Or maybe just let the judge sentence Donald Trump, then go through the appeals process while he is president. Sure. Well, we just don't know what he's going to do. But I do agree that delaying the Trump case for four years is ludicrous. It's an insult to justice and it violates state law, by the way, that requires sentencing within 12 months from conviction. The dilemma for Trump's lawyers is that they cannot appeal all of Mershawn's chronic reversible errors at trial until there is, as the professor points out, an adjudication. Well, that happens at sentencing. They can, however, immediately appeal if Mershawn denies the motion to dismiss on the immunity claim. If the judge refuses to rule, and that's what he's doing right now, they should seek a writ of mandamus from a higher court, force him to do his job, for goodness sakes. But also the defense still has pending a petition to remove the case to federal court where it belongs, because this was always an incoherent prosecution. It should never have been brought. Bragg manipulated the law, transforming misdemeanors into phantom felonies. He claimed it influenced the election. Well, guess what? The transactions happened after the election. And it's not a crime to conceal a perfectly legal non-disclosure agreement. People do it every day. So in the end, the conviction will never stand up. Mershawn and Bragg know it. That's why they want to delay the inevitable. All right, I'll stay with you.

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