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-We've learned here from what Eileen Cannon has revealed. It's amazing what's been exposed in just this one case and just how filthy this case is. -Well, we've seen this from the get-go. We had asked and pursued a lawsuit over these exact documents, got the stone wall, but we did get documents initially showing that the Biden White House was helping move this case against Trump along. And I don't know how many meetings you need to have with the White House and archives and the special counsel and Justice Department before you realize that the Justice Department independent investigation of Trump was about as independent from the Biden White House as the DNC is independent from the Biden White House. It was hand in glove. And to me, it's a further indication of the vindictive, selective prosecution targeting Trump. You know, this archives treated Bill Clinton with kid gloves because we saw it directly. They argued with us over tapes he had that were seemingly classified in part, but then they did a 180 to go after Trump, and we see they did it with the support of the White House. The raid on Trump wouldn't have happened without support of the White House. Of course, it stands to reason that a former president, subject to criminal investigations, never seen before in American history, that the idea that that would be done without White House involvement at the most senior levels, you know, it's obvious that's what happened and the documents show it's proof positive. And by the way, Mr. Smith talking, I just love him talking about all his expert prosecutors working for him. He's trying to hide the names of the senior prosecutors who are working for him from Judicial Watch. He doesn't want any of those names disclosed. Why is that? Secrecy upon secrecy, very unusual for criminal investigations of this nature, and kudos to Judge Cannon for doing this. They're hiding the names of witnesses. There are other pleadings that need to come forward. So we get a full view of the corruption behind the Justice Department persecution from. - It's very obvious that at some point, the people that actually run this country made a decision that they could not stand, no matter what the American people want, this man, they could not stand anymore. And they said, you know, they were gonna abandon all of the, I think some of the most important tenants of this country to just destroy him. And now they're facing, I think the backlash of it and the exposure of what they have done here in those years after January 6th, which of course, as we know, was the greatest political moment for the Democrat Party and for the establishment that they could have imagined for. Does it feel to you like that there are indications that they knew this indictment was gonna be weak, that Jack Smith knows how weak this case is. They just wanted to get another indictment on him, even if it didn't go through, because this case specifically looks, it just looks really terrible. How do you convict espionage? If Jack Smith knew that you had the government telling you to go pick up these boxes seven months after you left the White House, and you were already working on charges at that point, and there's a very good chance that they told them to come pick up boxes that had classified information in it, the case is dead. - You would think, it's just another indication. It was a setup from the get-go. They set Trump up almost immediately with the partisans at the archives pretending that he had documents he had no right to, which wasn't the law and it wasn't the legal position of the Justice Department previously, so they fooled Trump and his people initially. And of course, then Trump started figuring out, maybe there's something going on here, yet he still cooperated, but that wasn't good enough for him. And I know Smith was desperate to get this indictment 'cause I was involved in this grand jury process. They sent the FBI come knocking at my door before he was appointed, and then they're like, okay, well, you can come and talk to us informally. You don't have to come before the grand jury. Smith gets appointed a few weeks later, and all of a sudden they did this remarkable turnaround. Oh, forget about that promise to come talking formally. We've got a grand jury. And of course I went in and told them they were all wet, but of course they didn't care because it was all about getting Trump. It was like going before an MSNBC panel, those prosecutors, as opposed to any fact-finder that you could be assured that there was justice being fairly administered. - And you have to wonder, I mean, we have some transparency here on this case. First off, how does Eileen Cannon not dump the case after what we've seen? The optics looks so terrible. It looks so fascist to have Biden get off so easy for this Trump-facing prison. But also imagine if we had this transparency in the other Trump cases, imagine what Juan Marchand is concealing, potentially about Alvin Bragg's case. He doesn't give one legal victory to the Trump team. How dirty these cases all are. - Jay, if Trump is elected president, if I were him, I would appoint a special counsel to investigate all of this. This grand conspiracy against him to deprive him and other Americans of their civil rights under color of law and the Justice Department of Fulton County up in New York. They should all be brought in and be subject to a full federal civil rights investigation over this election interference and targeting of Trump and other innocent Americans. - Yeah, I can't wait to see the media's reaction if he pulls that move. They go nuts over that. Tom Fittin, we appreciate you coming on. Thank you.

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