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Thank you so much for joining us. So, Judge, tell us your thoughts in this moment. I don't know, predictions, what we're leaving out, what should we be looking at as this jury is deliberating? - I'm flabbergasted by the charges to the jury. You may have already gone through that, but I was doing something else. I have never heard a jury charge like this judge's charge to this jury. We knew the judge was flaky. We knew that he hated Donald Trump, but this judge is beyond the pale. To say that he's gonna take dead misdemeanors and raise them to felonies when they don't have to unanimously agree on what that felony is is stunning to me. It is absolutely stunning. I wanna be clear about something. In New York State, when I was a DA, if I wanted to raise a misdemeanor, and by the way, not a misdemeanor that is expired in terms of the statute of limitations, but if I wanted to raise a misdemeanor to a felony, the only way to do that would be to file a certificate of conviction of another crime. It could be a DWI, it could be a gun possession, to prove that in this particular case, this misdemeanor would end up as a felony, and that is done outside of the presence of the jury, where it's very clear that there's another real committed convicted case that raises the level of misdemeanor to a felony. This judge is making stuff up as he goes along. This is a kangaroo court. I'll tell you that the level of reversible error on this is stunning, and this judge, unfortunately, is connected to the jury in the sense they see him as this calm, reliable guy who is as out of control in terms of the law, and he doesn't know it, or he's making it up as he goes along, so that this defendant, a former president of the United States, is convicted of dead misdemeanors that, like magic, is turned into a felony. This is unheard of, Sandra and John, and I gotta tell you one more thing. It's almost like it's a rabbit show. You're gonna pull a rabbit out of the hat, but don't look over here, look at Stormy Daniels. Look at what she said. None of that had anything to do with this. It's all about destroying Donald Trump, and this jury charge has set me over the edge in terms of the law that's being made up as we go along in a felony that we have no idea of, but now it's New York election law, but it could be federal election law, too, or it could be a tax violation, and even if he didn't underpay his taxes, it could still be a crime. What is this man talking about? Right, and then, Judge, there's the other aspect of this, which is the multiple choice aspect of the predicate crime, that the jury does not need to unanimously agree on what the predicate crime was. When you were a judge in New York, did you ever instruct the jury to say, here's a smorgasbord of things that you can find him guilty of, and you don't all have to find him guilty of the same thing. Some of you can find him guilty of one thing or her. Some others can find him or her guilty of something else, and then the remainder of you can figure out something else to find him or her guilty on. Have you ever issued an instruction like that? It's not done. John, it's not done. And let's talk about the one of three. One is a federal election campaign violation, the other is a tax violation, and the other is the creation of additional records. Federal election campaign violation, they did not let Brad Smith testify, but you heard David Pecker testify about a federal election campaign problem. You heard Michael Cohen testify about that, but Donald Trump in his defense was not allowed to talk about it, but now, all of a sudden, the jury has the ability to go in and not agree that that is one of the felonies that is necessary to resurrect these dead misdemeanors, but there's no evidence. The defense couldn't defend themselves on it. That's bizarre, John. No one has heard of this. It's like a menu, A, column A, B, or C. You don't all have to agree on it, whatever, folks. This is a kangaroo court. This is unheard of. I'm telling you, I've done this for 32 years. I'm not a federal prosecutor. I'm a state prosecutor. I'm not a federal judge. I'm a county judge, just like Mershawn. This is New York law. This is my wheelhouse. He is wrong. - All right. - Judge, thank you. - Thanks, Judge. - And the problem is, okay, guys. - Nope, finish your thought. Finish your thought. - No, and the sad part about it is this jury is gonna think they're doing the right thing based upon a charge that no one has ever heard of and that he created. - All right. - Thank you, Judge. - Thank you. We'll be right back after this. Stay tuned.

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