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with us. You know, I was a little surprised. I know you were on with Tucker, and I'm open to anybody's opinion, but you kind of, what you're doing here is saying about Nikki Haley, is you're saying that her concern for Israel is driven by financial and a corrupting influence, and your explanation that this disproportionate focus on rape, kidnapping, and murder of the Jewish people in this attack, and that there, and your quote, that there are frankly financial and corrupting influences that lead them exactly to speak the way they do. Sean, that is, Sean, that is a shameful characterization. Wait a minute, stop right now. I'll read the exact, you do this in every single interview. You say stop and then you deny it. You deny your own words. So, you know, why don't you just own what you say and stand by it and stop playing these games? I am owning what I say, Sean. Well, I'm just telling you what you say. I am owning what I say. Well, I'm telling you, you're a smart guy. I want to assume you remember what you say. Anytime they want. Yeah, I absolutely do. And so Sean, maybe we have a debate that we need to have in our party. What's happening in Azerbaijan and Armenia was a separate discussion that I had. And I do believe that it is shameful that Azerbaijan is getting away with what they are because they have a powerful lobby in the US. But it is shameful to extrapolate that to the comments in Israel, where to be honest, I have been crystal clear that what's happened is barbaric. It is medieval. It is wrong. And Israel absolutely said this since day one, say it now has the right to defend itself to the fullest extent. Where I differ from other candidates in this field is that I also believe that this is Israel's decision to make the US should stand with Israel. But we need to be very careful not to enter a broader regional war in the Middle East. I have not heard a single Vivek. I've not heard a single Republican call for that. But I really want an explanation here. Actually, I don't know. I want an explanation to the truth. Can I finish? I want an exact explanation for your exact comments that there are frankly, financial and corrupting influences that lead them exactly to speak the way that they do. Now, why would you say what are the financial corrupting influences that Nikki Haley is taking your position on? We've got pictures of dead babies decapitated, burned babies bodies. We've got the equivalent of what would be population wise in the US over 37,000 dead Americans. So how much more evidence do you, what are you talking about? Sean, what I'm talking about is what's happening in Israel is an atrocity and the US absolutely should stand with Israel. Answer the question which is the corrupting influence on our politicians. Well, the fact of the matter is I think anybody who has been a military contractor, anybody who has made eight million dollars, including on serving on the board of Boeing, collecting stock options while running for US president on corporate boards, has money made money from military contracting through a family business, is disqualified from being the US president in a time of war. I think we cannot see our march to World War III in this country. My top priority from a foreign policy perspective is avoid World War III. Let me be straight. Let me come and let me, because what are you accused her of? Secure the US homeland. Why use your words if you want me to answer the question. No, I've given you plenty of time to answer the question. I'm going to now restate your words. Frankly, financial corrupting influences that lead them exactly to speak the way that they do when they talk about atrocities with Israel. Now you're telling me that if somebody in some capacity, when they talk about atrocities from Israel, Sean, don't mislead your audience. You are saying that there are frankly corrupting influences that lead them exactly to speak the way that they do. Now, if you're saying in with those exact words of yours, you're not denying them again, are you? Those are your exact words. If that's what you're saying, my question is simple to you. You're saying that if somebody works for a defense contractor, that that is a financial corrupting position when, when national security and defense is critical to the cause of freedom and has been throughout human history. I want to, why would you accuse me of being corrupt? I don't believe. Well, I don't believe that somebody should be able to be the next commander in chief if they have monetized their time in government, going from being in debt to making eight million dollars through military contracting businesses, through service on the board of Boeing. Frankly, it is shameful for somebody to be collecting stock options from corporate boards while they're running for US president. We already have one family in the White House, okay, who I believe has sold off our foreign policy to advance their private interests. The Republican party needs to be better than that. Needs to be a party where, if your campaign is principally being run by super PACs, people who can give unlimited amounts of money to your campaign, I don't think that befits the Republican party. I think we need to be better than that. So Sean, you and I may have a different view on that. But my view is, if you're making money off your time in government, then I don't think you're fit to be president of the United States. More importantly though, what's our policy? Stand with our allies while avoiding World War III, and that's where I'm at. A lot of people don't think you're qualified because you weren't even a Republican or voting Republican until what, 2020? Well, Sean, I think it depends on what your objectives with this interview are. I voted libertarian in my first election. I voted Republican in 2020. You're right. I'm not a partisan hack. I come in from the outside. I'm an independent-minded patriot who speaks to truth. It sounds to me like you just want to jump from the private sector yourself where you made a lot of money. By the way, I applaud capitalism. I applaud successful people. Sean, I applaud you for being so transparent about your objectives. I actually think that people working in the defense of our country and the defense industry are playing a vital role for the cause of freedom. So I don't really call it a corrupting influence. It suggests that somehow that's a corrupting influence. I actually like the experience that goes along with working for defense contractors. But I've got to listen. One of the things I loved about that interview with Tucker, one of the things I loved about the interview with Tucker was we were actually able to have a thoughtful conversation and go deep into issues rather than this kind of political gotcha. The point is this, you go on these interviews. Yeah, I have nothing but nice things to say, but here's your problem. People still watch it on these shows. People quote your exact words and you deny your own words. And I'm saying if you're going to be a presidential candidate and you're going to spend, I'm going to give you your exact words, either on Sean, you have been sitting here for years talking about the fake news media that you played this all the time. I'm enjoying this. You have been laughing about the fake news media how many times for the last several years and now you're buying the mainstream media narrative when you know how corrupt it is. I am following you. I am quoting your exact words are a problem. Did I not quote your exact words? Did I not quote your exact words? Did I call your exact media? Absolutely. Thank you. I'm not trying to go about a different topic, where people should actually get their own information rather than filter through centralized. I think it's asinine to think somebody that worked in the defense industry should not be qualified to be present. I think people that never held public office like you maybe shoot. They're not qualified to be president. Anyway, we'll come back.

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