# Post x_399181878470520833

- Post ID: `x_399181878470520833`
- Platform: X (Twitter)
- Posted: 2013-11-09T14:29:10.000Z (UTC)
- Deleted: no
- Repost: no, but it quotes a tweet by @cooey2ruley
- Canonical URL: https://trump.fm/post/x_399181878470520833
- Analysis page: https://trump.fm/post/x_399181878470520833/analysis
- Audio narration: https://static.trump.fm/audio/x_399181878470520833.mp3 (a synthesized voice reading the post text, not a recording)

## Post text

_Quotes @cooey2ruley, pasted in quotation marks the way early X retweets were made by hand. The words in quotation marks are @cooey2ruley's, not his; a reply of his, if any, follows the closing mark._

> "@cooey2ruley: @realDonaldTrump since you are in Russia go kick Snowden in the ass."

## Engagement

- Likes: 34
- Reposts: 37
- Replies: 0
- Views: unknown
- Metrics collected: 2026-01-31T23:43:13.277Z (UTC)

# Analysis

_Machine-generated by trump.fm on 2026-02-27T11:16:12.016Z (UTC): a model's reading of this post, not his words. Its psychological terms describe the language, not a clinical assessment of him._

## Summary

A brief retweet endorsing crude physical aggression ("kick Snowden in the ass") posted while Trump was physically in Moscow for Miss Universe — the same city where Snowden had recently received asylum. The post employs classic proxy-aggression mechanics: a follower voices the sentiment, Trump amplifies it, maintaining deniability while communicating clear endorsement. The geographical irony (Trump in Russia endorsing action against someone sheltered in Russia) is striking but likely unreflective. Psychologically, this is a low-intensity, grandiose-state maintenance post — Trump is riding high on his Moscow visit and engaging his audience with a punchy, tough-guy retweet. Defense mechanisms are primarily displacement and mild projection. No danger indicators beyond the slow normalization of crude physical language toward political dissidents. Authorship is likely authentic based on RT pattern and casual style, despite 18:29 Moscow local timing. Clinically unremarkable as a standalone post, but adds an early data point to Trump's documented pattern of proxy-aggression and punitive orientation toward loyalty violators.

## Analysis

### Authorship Attribution

Trump was in Moscow, Russia on November 9, 2013, attending the Miss Universe pageant. Moscow Standard Time in November 2013 was UTC+4 (Russia moved to permanent summer time in 2011, before reverting to UTC+3 in October 2014). The post timestamp of 14:29:10 UTC converts to **18:29 Moscow local time** — early evening, outside the late-night authentic window but also outside typical aide business hours for his New York-based staff. The content itself — a casual, provocative RT of fan content — is a pattern strongly associated with authentic Trump rather than aide management. Aide-written posts in this era tend toward event announcements, endorsements, and polished completeness; a crude "kick him in the ass" retweet carries no operational value for staff and considerable reputational risk if sourced from an aide.

**Verdict: Likely authentic** (medium confidence). The casual RT of aggressive fan content, absence of editorial framing, and provocative crude imagery are consistent with authentic Trump posting behavior.

### Contextual Significance

The post contains a geographically striking irony: Trump is physically in Moscow — meeting with oligarchs and businessmen per known events — while retweeting a message endorsing physical aggression toward Edward Snowden, who *also* received asylum in Russia in August 2013. Trump and Snowden were in the same city. No evidence suggests Trump exploited this ironically or strategically; the juxtaposition appears unreflective. However, it marks an early data point in Trump's publicly hostile stance toward Snowden, which intensified through his presidency.

### Level 1: Dispositional Traits

**Extraversion (high):** Consistent with the day's posts, which show high enthusiasm and audience engagement. Trump is actively cultivating his public persona during the Moscow trip ("CITY IS REALLY ENERGIZED!"), and the Snowden RT continues this high-engagement pattern.

**Agreeableness (low):** Endorsing crude physical aggression toward a named individual — even mediated through a follower's words — signals dismissal of norm constraints on public figures and a punitive interpersonal orientation.

**Conscientiousness (low in this instance):** No deliberation evident; impulsive amplification of provocative content without editorial consideration.

**Neuroticism:** Insufficient signal in this brief retweet. Same-day posts suggest positive affect dominance rather than anxious hostility, indicating low neuroticism activation in this moment.

### Level 2: Characteristic Adaptations

**Agency motives dominant.** By amplifying a "kick him" message, Trump positions himself as tough and action-oriented toward a perceived national traitor. This is consistent with power and dominance motive expression — asserting that he *would* act where others merely talk.

**Schema revealed:** Snowden is implicitly framed as deserving physical punishment, not complex political engagement. The selection of *this* tweet from presumably many follower mentions signals a punitive loyalty schema: those who violate national loyalty deserve contempt and physical consequence.

### Level 3: Narrative Identity

**Protagonist role:** Warrior-by-proxy. Trump endorses the punitive impulse through amplification rather than direct claim, maintaining plausible deniability while signaling alignment.

**Contrasting other:** Snowden as coward/traitor hiding in Russia vs. Trump as bold figure *actually in Russia*, unafraid, tough enough to act where bureaucrats fail.

**Identity claims implicit:** "I share the common man's rough-edged patriotism"; "I endorse consequences for traitors"; "I am bold enough to be in Russia itself."

### Level 4: Clinical Indicators

**Defense mechanisms:**
- *Proxy aggression / Displacement (primary):* The violence fantasy is voiced by a follower; Trump amplifies without direct personal authorship. This is a classic plausible-deniability structure that allows aggressive impulse expression with reduced accountability — a pattern that recurs throughout his social media history.
- *Projection (mild):* Snowden cast as cowardly traitor deserving punishment, possibly reflecting projection of disloyalty anxieties onto an outgroup target.

**Narcissistic state:** Grandiose. Same-day posts confirm elevated positive affect and self-aggrandizement ("I was just given a great tour," "Big night in Russia!"). The Snowden RT fits within an expansive, confident psychological register — not reactive injury but supply-seeking toughness display.

**Trigger:** Maintenance/supply-seeking. No specific narcissistic injury is evident; this is audience engagement during a high-status moment (international travel, celebrity event). The retweet selection performs patriotic toughness for followers while Trump enjoys a personal triumph.

### Rhetorical Analysis

**Proxy endorsement as primary device:** Selecting and amplifying a follower's aggressive tweet signals alignment with the punitive sentiment while retaining authorship deniability. The act of selection is itself the rhetorical act — Trump curates from thousands of mentions and this one makes the cut.

**Crude physical humor:** "Kick in the ass" is designed to amuse and signal toughness simultaneously — anti-elite, plain-spoken, masculine-coded. It performs common-man affect for an audience being shown a billionaire in Moscow.

**Normalization function:** Crude physical language toward named political dissidents — even in humor — accumulates in a public figure's rhetorical record, progressively lowering the register for what is permissible to say about political enemies.

**Violent imagery:** Present but cartoonish rather than eliminationist. No stochastic terrorism pattern; Snowden is not presented as an imminent threat requiring audience action.

### Danger Assessment

**Danger level: None.** The language targets a specific named individual in a crude but non-threatening register. No mobilization pattern, no escalation toward eliminationist language, no implied call to audience action. The "kick in the ass" framing is crude political theater rather than incitement. Snowden is not framed as a target for audience members to act against.

### Cognitive Status

Post is a 14-word retweet — insufficient signal for meaningful cognitive assessment. Same-day posts from 2013 show coherent syntax, standard punctuation, and enthused but organized communication consistent with his documented 2013-era baseline. No deviation markers present.

### Gaslighting / Reality Distortion

None present in this post.

### Longitudinal Note

This 2013 retweet represents an early, mild expression of Trump's consistently hostile attitude toward Snowden. By 2017, Trump would periodically call for Snowden's execution or harsh punishment. The proxy-aggression mechanism — using RT endorsement to voice aggression without direct authorship — becomes a more documented pattern in subsequent years. No deterioration signal; the post is consistent with 2013 baseline personality expression.

## Fact Verification

| Claim | Verdict | Evidence |
|-------|---------|----------|
| "Trump is in Russia on November 9, 2013" | **True** | Multiple same-day tweets confirm Moscow location for Miss Universe pageant; corroborated by known events listing Trump's approximately 46-hour Moscow stay meeting with Russian oligarchs and businessmen. |
| "Snowden is in Russia at this time" | **True** | Edward Snowden received temporary asylum in Russia on August 1, 2013, after leaking NSA surveillance documents. He remained in Russia throughout November 2013 and has remained there since. |

Overall Veracity: 100%

## Authorship Analysis

**Uncertain** (score: 65%)

### Indicators

- Simple retweet of fan content — a well-documented authentic Trump behavior pattern
- 18:29 Moscow local time — outside late-night window but also outside NY-based aide business hours
- Crude, provocative content selection inconsistent with aide risk management
- No event announcement or scheduling content (aide-typical absent)
- Absence of editorial framing or polished sentence structure

## Psychological Profile

### State

**Grandiose State**

**Trigger:** Maintenance (follower mention during high-status international travel)

Sentiment: -0.30

**Mildly Hypomanic**
- Same-day posts show elevated positive affect and enthusiasm across multiple tweets about Moscow visit
- High posting frequency throughout the day
- Grandiose framing of routine activities ('fantastic, hard working people,' 'CITY IS REALLY ENERGIZED!')
- Consistent with Trump's high-energy baseline during positive supply events — mild rather than marked

### Clinical

**Malignant Narcissism:**
- Narcissistic: 30%
- Antisocial: 20%
- Paranoid: 10%
- Sadism: 20%

**Defense Mechanisms:**
- displacement (immature)
- projection (immature)

**Cognitive Complexity:**
- Complexity: 10%

**Parasocial Techniques:**
- Retweeting fan content to create parasocial reciprocity and audience inclusion
- Sharing location-relevant fan interaction to deepen followers' vicarious experience of his travels
- Performing common-man affect (crude language) while in an elite international context

## Fact Checks (2)

_The model's verdicts from 2026-02-27._

> Trump is in Russia on November 9, 2013

**TRUE**

Multiple same-day tweets confirm Moscow location for Miss Universe pageant; corroborated by known events listing Trump's approximately 46-hour Moscow stay meeting with Russian oligarchs and businessmen.

Sources: Known events context: 'Trump Visits Moscow for Miss Universe'; Same-day tweets: 'I'm in Moscow for Miss Universe tonight'

> Snowden is in Russia at this time

**TRUE**

Edward Snowden received temporary asylum in Russia on August 1, 2013, after leaking NSA surveillance documents. He remained in Russia throughout November 2013 and has remained there since.

Sources: Public record — Snowden granted Russian asylum August 1, 2013

Overall Veracity: 100%

## Tags

- proxy-aggression (85%)
- russia-visit (90%)
- snowden-hostile (80%)
- retweet-endorsement (75%)
- grandiose-state (65%)
- punitive-orientation (65%)
- miss-universe-moscow (75%)
- masculine-toughness-performance (60%)

## That day

_From trump.fm's machine-generated digest of the day, not his words._

**Moscow High: Pre-Pageant Grandiosity and a Snowden Curveball from Trump's 46-Minute Russian Burst**

On November 9, 2013, Donald Trump's entire digital output was compressed into a 46-minute burst (17:47–18:33 Moscow Standard Time, UTC+4) in the hours before he presided over Miss Universe 2013 — a pageant he co-owned — at the Crocus City Hall arena. All eight posts maintained an unbroken grandiose state with zero rage indicators, no danger flags, and an average intensity of just 0.20. This is a psychologically clean event-day dataset: a businessman at perceived peak social status broadcasting his global reach to a domestic audience before stepping onto a world stage alongside Russian oligarchs and Steven Tyler.

The day's single analytical departure is post x_399181878470520833 — a retweet endorsing crude physical violence against Edward Snowden, posted while Trump was physically in Moscow, the city that had recently granted Snowden asylum. The geographic irony (cultivating Russian business relationships while amplifying anti-Snowden sentiment for an American audience) produced no apparent cognitive dissonance, suggesting effective compartmentalization or simple indifference to the contradiction. Mechanically, this is a textbook instance of Trump's proxy-aggression pattern: a follower voices punitive sentiment, Trump amplifies without explicit personal ownership, maintaining deniability while signaling clear endorsement. It is clinically unremarkable in isolation but contributes an early data point to his documented punitive orientation toward perceived loyalty violators.

Hypomanic indicators are absent. The burst-posting pattern, while dense, is entirely explained by pre-event excitement. Posts are internally consistent with no contradictions, and cognitive coherence is fully intact throughout. External events of broader geopolitical significance — Iran nuclear talks in Geneva, the christening of the USS Gerald R. Ford — generated zero response, consistent with full attentional capture by the high-stimulation Moscow environment. The day's narrative arc is flat and stable: no victimhood, no comeback, no escalation — simply a prestige performance playing out at the top of a constructed social hierarchy.

Full digest for 2013-11-09: https://trump.fm/date/2013-11-09/analysis

## Citation

- APA: Trump, D. J. (2013, November 9). "@cooey2ruley: @realDonaldTrump since you are in... [Social media post]. X (Twitter). trump.fm. https://trump.fm/post/x_399181878470520833
- MLA: Trump, Donald J. ""@cooey2ruley: @realDonaldTrump since you are in Russia go..." X (Twitter), 9 Nov. 2013. trump.fm, https://trump.fm/post/x_399181878470520833. Accessed 9 Oct. 2026.
- Chicago: Donald J. Trump, ""@cooey2ruley: @realDonaldTrump since you are in Russia go...," X (Twitter), November 9, 2013, archived at trump.fm, https://trump.fm/post/x_399181878470520833.

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