# Post ts_113131199825349265 - Post ID: `ts_113131199825349265` - Platform: Truth Social - Posted: 2024-09-13T16:31:54.521Z (UTC) - Deleted: no - Repost: no - Canonical URL: https://trump.fm/post/ts_113131199825349265 - Analysis page: https://trump.fm/post/ts_113131199825349265/analysis - Audio narration: https://static.trump.fm/audio/ts_113131199825349265.mp3 (a synthesized voice reading the post text, not a recording) ## Post text > “ABC NEWS FACT-CHECKED TRUMP WITH FAKE TALKING POINTS” ## What the media says **Video transcript** (8:19), transcribed automatically, so names and numbers may be wrong. Speakers aren't identified, so a voice in it may not be his: > Crime here is up and through the roof despite their fraudulent statements that they made Crime in this country is through the roof and we have a new form of crime It's called migrant crime and it's happening at levels that nobody thought possible President Trump as you know, the FBI says overall violent crime is actually coming down in this country But excuse me, the FBI defraud they were defrauding statements They were defrauding statements the FBI the FBI tells us everything is fine. The FBI This is why they put out that bogus crime survey earlier this year to give the administration a talking point a fake talking point Everybody knows this country is engulfed in a crime crisis But the same people who try to take out Trump in 2016 and 2020 Are doing it maybe in a little bit more nuanced way this time around with fake crime numbers. Donald Trump would not have it They didn't include the worst cities. They didn't include the cities with the worst crime It was a fraud just like their number of eight hundred and eighteen thousand jobs that they said they created turned out to be a fraud President Trump. Thank you. Let's get off that topic really quick. Oh, yes, they get a dozen just Crazy and one of the best moments I thought for President Trump. This is presidential. All right He has a real shot at winning right? I guess she does too I'd like the war in Ukraine to end Wouldn't you now if you say as a president if you're caught saying you want one side to win and the other side not to win That could make peace harder to achieve President Trump is saying all the right things about this Just to clarifying the question do you believe it's in the US best interest for Ukraine to win this war? Yes, or I think it's the US best interest to get this war finished and just get it done All right negotiated deal because we have to stop all of these human lives from being destroyed You never hear about that bringing this war to a close why is that I think it's brilliant Anybody else who doesn't care can just say oh, yeah Ukraine Ukraine What are you doing when you sit down at that peace table, which he hopefully will be doing even before he's inaugurated All right. What else you remember this? In Springfield, they're eating the dogs the people that came in they're eating the cats they're eating They're eating the pets of the people that live there I just want to clarify here you bring up Springfield, Ohio and ABC News did reach out to the city manager there He told us there had been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed entered or abused by individuals within the immigrant community Let me just say here. This is the people on television say my dog was taken and used for food So maybe he said that it may be that's a good thing to say for a city manager I'm not taking this from television I'm taking this from the city manager, you know get that all the time from the fake news these days They used to question the authorities right the authorities say everything is fine. Therefore. Everything is fine. Is that right? Is that right David Muir? Wow, but you really look good doing it, huh? Hmm. Is that what it's all about I guess it is what it's all about and what's wrong with watching television for a little bit of information Guys in the television business. He's putting down television You got a tweet or a text from the city manager the nameless city manager Well, how about this guy in the middle of? Springfield go into the community board begging for help Here and do something these patients are running into trash cans They're running into buildings. They're running into They flipping cars in the middle of the street If I don't know how like y'all can be comfortable with this like I don't know like who's getting paid from it I feel like I honestly feel like someone's getting paid from it in the background They're in the park driving up ducks by their neck and cutting their head off and walking off with them if eating them like Well, he didn't say cats or dogs did he and the city manager, of course, I Think this guy's credible. I think the people are credible I don't trust the authorities and I don't trust David Muir in his haircut unbelievable just Atrocious and the same goes for his sidekick more on her later All right. I know how I feel about all this You probably know how you feel but there are some independents out there apparently who have not made up their mind But they're they're seeing things and they're reaching conclusions We're in an incredibly unique situation Where we've had both of the candidates in office before and we've gotten to see what they do and when facts come to facts My life was better when Trump was in office. The economy was higher inflation was lower things were better overall and now with Kamala's administration things haven't been so fantastic When I first heard that we were abandoning or we're withdrawing from Afghanistan and the the way it was happening I had my Kennedy moment when I saw that we were leaving that amount of high-tech equipment in the hands of our enemy and Later that that day or later that week I saw on the news where them celebrating with our guns in their house. All right, you get the sense there, right? this is a group of undecided Pennsylvania voters and Maybe they haven't made up their minds yet, but they were not swayed by anything Kamala Harris said They've heard all these attacks about on Trump right January 6 Charlottesville Charlottesville the lie I'll get to that. Hopefully After the debate almost immediately after the Kamala Harris people put out a statement They want a debate vice president Harris. Look at the bottom is ready for a second debate is Donald Trump So if you're really one like the fake news is saying you don't want another debate. Donald Trump is right. Check this out When you don't win it's like a fighter when a fighter has a bad fight gets knocked out or loses the fight The first thing he says is we want to rematch so We won the debate according to every poll every single poll. I think that are we gonna do a rematch? I just don't know that we'll think about Good for him because he won the debate. It's up to him now. You want a little I don't know I think this guy he's right about the boxer right who remembers rocky rocky one rocky to rocky three after that They kind of went downhill, but rocky two is very good Alright, so what happened Apollo Creed loses the first match, but everybody know no Apollo Creed won the first match But everybody know rocky really did right anyway opening scene of the rocky two They were in the hospital and Creed who really got beat up bad and everybody knows rocky wins What's the first words out of his mouth? You got So lucky what you did was a miracle you're the luckiest man on the face of their it I want you to know that stallion. I look lucky look nobody goes the distance with me get up out of that chair chump And let's finish this fight right now Is this serious where you going down did the bell save you Apollo Bell nothing man, I can beat that chump I'll fight him any place anytime does that mean there'll be a rematch. I said any place anytime man Can you hear a yo Paul? He said the one girl be no rematch look chump any place anytime rocky a rematch could be worth millions I'm officially retired now. Don't you run out on me now? Don't you run out on me stallion? I gave you a shot the first time now I'm ready to give you all right you see what I mean the late great Carl weathers by the way I'm kurt young and Burgess Meredith and Talia Shire and sliced alone both alive and well. I love it That's why Kamala wants a fight because she actually knows she lost it didn't sway any independence, and that was what she needed to do Hmm and convinced her that she's a serious person speaking of people who are not serious people We already talked about David Muir this individual hostile nasty mean self-righteous Her name is Lindsay something and I have a few more things to say about her when we come back ## Media - video: https://static-assets-1.truthsocial.com/tmtg:prime-ts-assets/media_attachments/files/113/131/199/470/877/655/original/c7af0e2446f11665.mp4 ## Engagement - Likes: 14,392 - Reposts: 4,272 - Replies: 855 - Views: unknown - Metrics collected: 2026-02-01T01:19:51.335Z (UTC) # Analysis _Machine-generated by trump.fm on 2026-03-27T08:25:01.799Z (UTC): a model's reading of this post, not his words. Its psychological terms describe the language, not a clinical assessment of him._ ## Summary "ABC NEWS FACT-CHECKED TRUMP WITH FAKE TALKING POINTS" is one node in a September 13 post-debate damage-control cluster following Trump's widely-assessed poor debate performance against Harris (CNN poll: 63-37% Harris). The post deploys DARVO dynamics — projecting fabrication onto ABC moderators who fact-checked Trump in real time — and contributes to systematic epistemic closure architecture by categorically delegitimizing corrective journalism. The trigger is high-magnitude narcissistic injury: public defeat before 67 million viewers plus institutional correction. Defense mechanisms are predominantly pathological (denial, distortion) and immature (projection). Business-hours timing and attached media asset suggest aide execution with authentic Trump voice. The oscillation between grandiose ('TRUMP WON') and vulnerable ('victim of FAKE TALKING POINTS') registers within a single day's cluster is consistent with unstable narcissistic regulation under stress. Danger is structural: the post advances sustained delegitimization of press accountability — a cumulative precondition for follower harassment of journalists and immunization against independent reality-testing. The Springfield bomb threats in the same news cycle demonstrate this cluster's rhetoric has already produced documented real-world consequences. # Analysis: "ABC NEWS FACT-CHECKED TRUMP WITH FAKE TALKING POINTS" **Truth Social · 2024-09-13 · 16:31 UTC · Subject age 78** --- ## Authorship Attribution **Score: 0.45 — Likely Aide-Executed with Authentic Trump Voice** The timing converts to **09:31 MST** if Trump was in or en route to Tucson (Arizona does not observe DST), or **12:31 EDT** if still on the East Coast. Either way: business hours. The attached MP4 asset implies production workflow rather than spontaneous venting. However, the ALL CAPS declarative register, emotional reactivity, and punchy brevity are unmistakably Trump's voice. Most probable scenario: Trump dictated or approved the framing; Scavino or equivalent executed the post with media attachment. Confidence: medium. --- ## Contextual Frame This post is one node in a **sustained September 13 damage-control cluster** — at least five posts on the same day — following the September 10 Harris-Trump debate. That debate was watched by 67.1 million viewers; a CNN post-debate poll showed 63% believed Harris won vs. 37% for Trump. ABC moderators David Muir and Linsey Davis fact-checked Trump in real time on multiple claims (Springfield immigration, abortion positions, economic data). The dual wound — public performance loss at scale and institutional correction — constitutes a high-magnitude narcissistic injury. --- ## Level 1: Dispositional Traits (Big Five) The post activates a narrow but intense trait profile: - **Neuroticism (Angry Hostility, N2):** Dominant. The post is a reactive strike against perceived institutional humiliation. - **Agreeableness (low):** Combative, zero-modesty, no acknowledgment of opponent's legitimacy. - **Openness (low):** Closed to corrective information; rigidity in values. - **Extraversion (high):** Assertive, dominant communication frame. - **Conscientiousness (low):** Impulsive attack without specific counter-argument. --- ## Level 2: Characteristic Adaptations — Motives and Schemas **Agency motive (power): 0.90** — The post is entirely about restoring dominance over a threatening institution. No communion motive visible. **Schema: Media as partisan weapon.** The "talking points" framing implies ABC was fed lines by the Harris campaign — transforming a journalistic function into a conspiratorial act. This schema is load-bearing in Trump's worldview: it preemptively discredits any future correction by any outlet, insulating followers from independent verification. --- ## Level 3: Narrative Identity - **Protagonist role:** Wronged truth-teller / victim of institutional corruption - **Narrative sequence:** Contamination — a legitimate public event (the debate) was tainted by corrupt media intervention - **Identity claim:** "I am the real truth-teller; the institution correcting me is the fabricator" - **Contrasting other:** ABC News as corrupt partisan apparatus; implicitly the Harris campaign as the real author of the "talking points" --- ## Level 4: Clinical Indicators ### Narcissistic Dynamics **Trigger type: Narcissistic injury (exposure subtype).** The injury is double-layered — losing the public perception contest *and* being corrected on live television by institutional authority figures. Kohut's model predicts disproportionate rage response when self-object failure is public and witnessed at scale. **Narcissistic state: Mixed (vulnerable + grandiose oscillation).** Within the same posting cluster: "TRUMP WON — KAMALA LOST" (grandiose) vs. "victim of FAKE TALKING POINTS" (vulnerable). This intra-day oscillation between poles is consistent with unstable narcissistic regulation under stress conditions. **Rage intensity: 0.60.** Present but modulated — the post is punchy rather than extended. Proportionality: 0.20 — the response dramatically exceeds what a documented, accurate fact-check warrants. ### Defense Mechanisms 1. **Projection (immature):** Attributes fabrication to the fact-checking party. Trump's own documented misstatements — the very subject of the fact-checks — are displaced onto ABC. 2. **Denial (pathological):** The entire category of fact-checking is refused as legitimate; corrections cannot exist, only partisan attacks. 3. **Distortion (pathological):** ABC's journalistic function is reshaped wholesale into a political weapon, requiring significant reality reshaping. ### Malignant Narcissism Subcomponents - Narcissistic features: **0.75** — grandiosity, entitlement, refusal of accountability - Antisocial features: **0.50** — deceitfulness in recharacterizing documented facts - Paranoid features: **0.65** — institutional persecution framing, grudge maintenance - Sadism: **0.10** — not present in this post --- ## Rhetorical & Propaganda Techniques The post achieves maximum delegitimization with minimum words. Six words carry an architectural payload: 1. **All-caps hyperbole:** Signals emotional urgency, claims reader attention, activates tribal registers 2. **Ad hominem institutional:** Attack targets the institution's credibility rather than any specific claim, making rebuttal structurally impossible 3. **"Talking points" framing:** Implies Harris campaign coordination — fabricated but rhetorically efficient; transforms ABC from referee to player 4. **RAND Firehose contribution:** In context of 5+ same-day posts, adds volume + inversion to the post-debate reality-distortion campaign 5. **False inversion of epistemic authority:** The institution with documented evidence is cast as the fabricator; the subject with documented misstatements is cast as truth-teller No dehumanizing language. No violent imagery. Danger is structural, not immediate. --- ## Gaslighting & Reality Distortion **DARVO in compressed form (Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender):** - *Deny:* The fact-checks are "fake" - *Attack:* ABC News is the dishonest party - *Reverse:* Trump is the victim of media fabrication, not the subject of accurate correction **Embedded loyalty test:** Accepting this post's framing requires followers to reject ABC's documented, broadcast corrections in favor of Trump's unsubstantiated counter-assertion. This functions as an epistemic membership requirement — those who accept correction are outside the group. --- ## Epistemic Closure Architecture This post contributes to a larger structural project: making followers immune to independent fact-checking. The mechanism is recursive: - Fact-check → labeled "fake talking points" → fact-checker discredited → future fact-checks pre-discredited - No specific claim is contested (which would require evidence) — the *category* of correction is abolished This is more sophisticated than simple denial. It is institutional architecture. --- ## Danger Assessment: ELEVATED No direct violence indicators. Danger is cumulative and structural: 1. Sustained delegitimization of press accountability creates documented conditions for follower harassment of journalists 2. Epistemic closure at scale produces followers who have been trained to reject all institutional correction — a necessary precondition for authoritarian consolidation 3. The Springfield bomb threats (33+ threats following Trump's debate comments about Haitian immigrants eating pets) demonstrate that this cluster's rhetoric has already produced documented real-world violence in the same news cycle --- ## Fact Verification | Claim | Verdict | Evidence | |-------|---------|----------| | "ABC News fact-checked Trump" | **True** | ABC moderators David Muir and Linsey Davis fact-checked Trump in real time during the September 10 debate, a documented and publicly broadcast event watched by 67.1 million viewers. | | "The fact-checks were 'fake talking points'" | **Mostly False** | Post-debate independent analysis confirmed the ABC fact-checks were accurate on multiple Trump claims (Springfield immigration, abortion positions, economic data). The 'talking points' framing implies coordination with the Harris campaign — an unverified and unsupported allegation. | Overall Veracity: 60% ## Cognitive Status Single declarative sentence — insufficient for meaningful cognitive assessment. No word-finding errors, neologisms, tangentiality, or incoherence detectable. Complexity score appropriately low for format. **No deviation from established baseline.** --- ## Archetypal Frame **Primary: Warrior + Victim (combined).** The post embodies simultaneous Warrior stance (attacking the enemy institution) and Victim positioning (wrongly targeted by corrupt media). This dual archetype — persecuted fighter — is maximally potent for audience mobilization: it justifies aggression (Warrior) while maintaining moral high ground (Victim). **Shadow projection:** The accusation of fabricating "talking points" projects onto ABC precisely what Trump's own communications apparatus does — crafting repeated, coordinated messaging regardless of factual grounding. --- *Longitudinal note: This post is consistent with Trump's established post-defeat response pattern. The cluster density (5+ posts in one day) is slightly elevated but not unprecedented. No marked deviation from baseline. Deterioration trajectory: stable.* ## Authorship Analysis **Uncertain** (score: 45%) ### Indicators - ALL CAPS register consistent with authentic Trump style - Single punchy declarative sentence matches natural Trump cadence - Business hours posting (09:31 MST Tucson / 12:31 EDT) suggests aide execution - Attached MP4 media asset implies production workflow, not spontaneous posting - Post functions as media amplification vehicle — more structured than raw venting ## Psychological Profile ### State **Mixed State** **Trigger:** Narcissistic Injury — Exposure (ABC News debate fact-checking + post-debate CNN poll showing 63% Harris win) **Rage:** Intensity 60% targeting ABC News - Proportionality: 20% Sentiment: -0.75 ### Clinical **Malignant Narcissism:** - Narcissistic: 75% - Antisocial: 50% - Paranoid: 65% - Sadism: 10% **Defense Mechanisms:** - projection (immature) - denial (pathological) - distortion (pathological) **Cognitive Complexity:** - Complexity: 15% **Parasocial Techniques:** - Epistemic closure construction — followers trained to reject all external correction - Loyalty test embedded in false claim — accepting the framing requires rejecting institutional reality - Shared grievance activation against media institutions ## Danger Assessment **ELEVATED** ### Indicators - Sustained institutional delegitimization of press fact-checking creates conditions for journalist targeting by followers - Part of high-volume epistemic closure campaign following debate loss — accelerated post density indicates heightened injury response - Characterizing accurate corrections as fabrications normalizes rejection of all external accountability at scale - Same-cycle Springfield bomb threats (33+) demonstrate cluster rhetoric has produced real-world consequences ### Gaslighting - Inverts epistemic situation: the entity providing documented corrections is recast as the source of 'fake' information - Loyalty test: accepting the framing requires followers to reject institutional verification in favor of Trump's self-report - Rapid revisionism — fact-checks reframed as partisan attack within days of airing before independent review can accumulate - DARVO structure: ABC is both attacker and fabricator; Trump is both truth-teller and victim ## Fact Checks (2) _The model's verdicts from 2026-03-27._ > ABC News fact-checked Trump **TRUE** ABC moderators David Muir and Linsey Davis fact-checked Trump in real time during the September 10 debate, a documented and publicly broadcast event watched by 67.1 million viewers. Sources: Known events — First Harris-Trump Presidential Debate > The fact-checks were 'fake talking points' **MOSTLY FALSE** Post-debate independent analysis confirmed the ABC fact-checks were accurate on multiple Trump claims (Springfield immigration, abortion positions, economic data). The 'talking points' framing implies coordination with the Harris campaign — an unverified and unsupported allegation. Sources: Known events — First Harris-Trump Presidential Debate; Known events — Springfield, Ohio Bomb Threats Overall Veracity: 60% ## Tags - post-debate damage control (95%) - media delegitimization (90%) - DARVO (90%) - epistemic closure (88%) - narcissistic injury response (85%) - projection (85%) - fact-check attack (80%) - ALL CAPS signaling (70%) - aide-assisted post (60%) ## That day _From trump.fm's machine-generated digest of the day, not his words._ **Three Days After Debate Loss, Trump Mounts 16-Post Reality Overwrite Campaign From California** Trump spent the day running damage control after his widely-acknowledged debate loss to Harris, flooding his feed with competing claims that he actually won, that ABC News cheated, and that Harris told "dozens of lies." The mood was agitated throughout, swinging between defiant victory declarations and bitter grievance about moderators, the media, and even NASDAQ. He also addressed the Laura Loomer controversy, distancing himself from her comments while validating her anger, and threatened to sue NASDAQ over routine stock trading halts he cast as political sabotage. The day ended with escalating fear-mongering -- warning that a Harris vote means war with Russia, a military draft, and the obliteration of Israel. Full digest for 2024-09-13: https://trump.fm/date/2024-09-13/analysis ## Citation - APA: Trump, D. J. (2024, September 13). “ABC NEWS FACT-CHECKED TRUMP WITH FAKE TALKING... [Social media post]. Truth Social. trump.fm. https://trump.fm/post/ts_113131199825349265 - MLA: Trump, Donald J. "“ABC NEWS FACT-CHECKED TRUMP WITH FAKE TALKING POINTS”" Truth Social, 13 Sep. 2024. trump.fm, https://trump.fm/post/ts_113131199825349265. Accessed 9 Oct. 2026. - Chicago: Donald J. 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