# Post ts_111485817993108946 - Post ID: `ts_111485817993108946` - Platform: Truth Social - Posted: 2023-11-28T02:29:40.224Z (UTC) - Deleted: no - Repost: no - Canonical URL: https://trump.fm/post/ts_111485817993108946 - Analysis page: https://trump.fm/post/ts_111485817993108946/analysis - Audio narration: https://static.trump.fm/audio/ts_111485817993108946.mp3 (a synthesized voice reading the post text, not a recording) ## Post text > OLIVER STONE ON THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION… ## What the media says **Video transcript** (0:46), transcribed automatically, so names and numbers may be wrong. Speakers aren't identified, so a voice in it may not be his: > - This was the most fair, well-run election that we've had ever. - Really? - Yes! - I don't know about that. - Okay. - I don't know about that. - Well, I mean, if there's nothing that can be said or argued that would convince you-- - I think what shocked people was that-- - Then they called a closed line. - Trump got so many votes, you know. That was what was shocking that he did so well compared to what he was expected to do. - Right. - Because we believed all the East Coast-- - And why don't you believe he could have lost? - We believed all the East Coast, the media elite, that he was gonna fail and boom. - Yes. - They were wrong. We would love to see them being wrong, don't we? The media elite. 'Cause they really hated-- - Well, they're wrong a lot. - They went too far in hating, in dumping on Trump. And people don't like that in America. - You're right. - They don't like dumping on. - You're right. - And they did it too much. ## Media - video: https://static-assets-1.truthsocial.com/tmtg:prime-ts-assets/media_attachments/files/111/485/817/928/731/107/original/ac957be92aa18f06.mp4 ## Engagement - Likes: 13,347 - Reposts: 4,234 - Replies: 810 - Views: unknown - Metrics collected: 2026-02-01T01:19:51.390Z (UTC) # Analysis _Machine-generated by trump.fm on 2026-03-20T11:05:50.466Z (UTC): a model's reading of this post, not his words. Its psychological terms describe the language, not a clinical assessment of him._ ## Summary This Thanksgiving evening post is a minimalist video share — Oliver Stone on the 2020 election — functioning as low-intensity narcissistic supply through proxy validation. The subject makes no explicit claim, insulating himself from direct fact-checking while transmitting election denial intact via a credentialed filmmaker's implied authority. The ellipsis operates as an open-loop activation device compelling follower engagement. Within the day's unusually affect-laden cluster (rage at Letitia James, Nikki Haley, Judge Engoron), this post stands out as relatively calm — suggesting a moment of satisfied vindication rather than threatened narcissism. The election denial compulsion remains longitudinally consistent: the 2020 loss represents the subject's most significant narcissistic injury, and this post is another instance of the ongoing rehabilitation effort through accumulated third-party validators. Defense mechanisms include rationalization (Stone's credibility lends intellectual cover) and projection (dishonesty attributed to election-certifying institutions). Danger rating: elevated, as a structural contribution to epistemic closure and alternate-reality maintenance rather than any direct threat. Authorship is tentatively authentic given late-evening Mar-a-Lago timing, though the atypical absence of personal annotation introduces uncertainty. Clinically notable primarily for its efficiency: maximum ideological payload at minimum rhetorical cost, with complete plausible deniability. # Post Analysis: ts_111485817993108946 **Date:** 2023-11-27, 21:29 EST (Thanksgiving evening) | **Age:** 77 --- ## Surface Observation The post is maximally minimal: a seven-word ALL CAPS label and an attached video. No explicit claim, no personal commentary, no named target. Its rhetorical power is entirely downstream of the implied meaning — that Oliver Stone, a credentialed Hollywood filmmaker with a history of revisionist historical documentaries (*JFK*, *Nixon*, *W.*), is on record questioning the legitimacy of the 2020 presidential election. The ellipsis suspends the sentence mid-thought, functioning as an implicit command to watch. --- ## Authorship Attribution **Confidence: Medium | Score: 0.62 (leaning authentic)** Local time is 21:29 EST on Thanksgiving evening at Mar-a-Lago. This is plausibly Trump watching television or browsing media. ALL CAPS is an authentic Trump stylistic marker. However, the complete absence of personal annotation is atypical — Trump characteristically appends his own verdict ("SO TRUE!", "Watch this!", "The Fake News will NEVER show you this!"). The bare-label format is more consistent with aide curation, though the late-evening timing argues against standard staff hours. Most probable reading: authentic Trump reshare with minimal friction — he let the video speak for itself, unusual but not unprecedented. --- ## Level 1: Dispositional Traits (Big Five) This post is too sparse to yield reliable trait data, but the choice of content is informative: - **Low Agreeableness facet (modesty absent):** Implicit in the election denial frame — the claim that the official outcome is wrong requires persistent disregard for consensus institutional authority - **Neuroticism (underlying):** The election denial compulsion, even in low-intensity maintenance mode, reflects ongoing anxiety about the 2020 outcome - **Conscientiousness (low deliberation):** Posting without added commentary or fact-checking the video's claims --- ## Level 2: Characteristic Adaptations **Dominant motive: Status/power restoration** The 2020 election loss is the central narcissistic injury of Trump's post-presidential period. Every post touching that wound — however indirectly — represents an attempt to restore the pre-injury self-concept. Here, restoration is sought through *borrowed credibility*: if Oliver Stone (credentialed, famous, not a MAGA partisan) sees what Trump sees, then Trump's perception is vindicated. **Schema (self):** "I was right all along; now even they can see it." **Schema (world):** "There are truth-tellers everywhere if you look; the mainstream just suppresses them." --- ## Level 3: Narrative Identity **Protagonist role:** Vindicated prophet — the one who knew but was silenced; the truth is finally emerging through unexpected channels. **Narrative sequence:** This post fits a *redemption arc* frame — the contamination event (losing the 2020 election, being labeled a "big lie" propagandist) is gradually being reversed as new validators emerge. Stone's video is another data point in the "the truth is coming out" narrative. **Contrasting other:** Implicitly, the mainstream media and Democratic establishment that declared the election clean and Trump's claims baseless. **Identity claim:** Implicitly, "I was telling the truth." --- ## Level 4: Clinical Indicators ### Narcissistic Dynamics **State:** Grandiose (muted) **Trigger:** Maintenance / passive supply-seeking **Rage:** Absent in this specific post — notably different from the same-day posts attacking Haley ("Birdbrain"), Judge Engoron ("Psycho"), and AG James ("racist"). This post is calmer, suggesting a moment of *satisfied* rather than *threatened* narcissism. The election denial compulsion is longitudinally consistent and reflects the ongoing effort to repair the most significant narcissistic injury of the subject's political life. Unlike direct attacks on enemies, this post represents a more sophisticated narcissistic strategy: outsourcing the truth claim to a third party with independent credibility. ### Defense Mechanisms 1. **Rationalization (neurotic):** Stone's filmmaking credentials provide intellectual scaffolding for claims that courts and election officials have uniformly rejected. 2. **Projection (immature):** The implicit frame attributes dishonesty and manipulation to the institutions that certified the election, redirecting attention from the subject's own documented misrepresentations. ### Cognitive Status Post is too minimal for meaningful cognitive assessment. No word-finding difficulties, perseveration, or paraphasia detectable in seven words. Baseline comparison is not applicable at this length. --- ## Rhetorical Analysis **Primary technique: Laundered assertion** The post makes no verifiable claim. It cannot be fact-checked as written. But it transmits the election denial message with full fidelity through implication. This represents rhetorical sophistication — or at minimum, learned avoidance of direct fact-check exposure after years of explicit claims being publicly debunked. **Ellipsis as activation device:** The trailing "…" is doing significant work. It creates an open loop in the reader's cognition, compelling them to close it by watching the video. The implied completion: "...and you should hear what he says." **Third-party authority ventriloquism:** Stone is politically ambiguous enough to carry credibility across audience segments. Unlike a Tucker Carlson or Steve Bannon reshare, this reaches beyond the base by signaling that even Hollywood types are questioning the narrative. --- ## Gaslighting & Reality Distortion **Gaslighting present: Yes (indirect)** The post contributes to the broader ecosystem of election denial by accumulating validators. Each reshare reinforces the alternate-reality epistemic frame in which the 2020 election's legitimacy is an open question. This is a structural contribution to epistemic closure — the in-group is given one more signal that their doubts are justified and credentialed. --- ## Danger Assessment **Level: Elevated (not high)** The post contains no explicit threats, dehumanizing language, or violent imagery. However, sustained election denial content — particularly when amplified by credentialed validators — contributes to the broader pattern documented by researchers as a precondition for political violence. The Jan 6 events emerged from exactly this epistemically closed environment. This individual post is a minor contribution to that ongoing dynamic. --- ## Longitudinal Context Within the same day's posting cluster, this video share is the *lowest affect* post. The surrounding content includes rage-laden attacks (Haley, James, Engoron) and legal grievance declarations ("POLITICAL WITCH HUNT!"). The Oliver Stone post stands apart as calm, almost meditative — satisfaction rather than aggression. This oscillation between rage states and gratified vindication is consistent with the longitudinal pattern observed across prior posts. --- ## Fact Verification | Claim | Verdict | Evidence | |-------|---------|----------| | "Implied: the 2020 Presidential Election had significant fraud or irregularities" | **False** | Over 60 court challenges were dismissed or rejected. Trump's own DOJ (Barr), DHS CISA, and bipartisan election officials found no evidence of fraud sufficient to alter the outcome. | Overall Veracity: 0% ## Authorship Analysis **Uncertain** (score: 62%) ### Indicators - ALL CAPS formatting consistent with authentic Trump style - Ellipsis ('…') used for dramatic rhetorical pause, a Trump stylistic tic - Posting at 9:29 PM EST on Thanksgiving evening (late-ish, plausibly authentic leisure browsing) - Brevity and lack of commentary is atypical — authentic Trump usually adds his own framing - Video-sharing with only a label is more consistent with aide-assisted curation, though late timing cuts against that ## Psychological Profile ### State **Grandiose State** **Trigger:** Maintenance — Defeat (Oliver Stone video on 2020 election) Sentiment: -0.35 ### Clinical **Malignant Narcissism:** - Narcissistic: 55% - Antisocial: 30% - Paranoid: 45% - Sadism: 5% **Defense Mechanisms:** - rationalization (neurotic) - projection (immature) **Cognitive Complexity:** - Complexity: 10% **Parasocial Techniques:** - Third-party authority ventriloquism — outsourcing the election denial claim to a respected filmmaker to add legitimacy - Ellipsis as open loop — creates curiosity gap compelling followers to watch and complete the narrative arc themselves - Implicit consensus-building: if Oliver Stone believes it, the follower's belief is validated ## Danger Assessment **ELEVATED** ### Indicators - Contributes to sustained election denial ecosystem that researchers link to elevated political violence risk - Epistemic closure reinforcement: adds credentialed validator to alternate-reality framework - No direct threats or dehumanizing language present ### Gaslighting - Structural contribution to alternate electoral reality without making falsifiable claim - Framing defeated election as legitimately contested — denial of documented institutional consensus - Epistemic closure: followers receive signal that doubts are credentialed and externally validated ## Fact Checks (1) _The model's verdicts from 2026-03-20._ > Implied: the 2020 Presidential Election had significant fraud or irregularities **FALSE** Over 60 court challenges were dismissed or rejected. Trump's own DOJ (Barr), DHS CISA, and bipartisan election officials found no evidence of fraud sufficient to alter the outcome. Sources: U.S. Department of Justice (Barr statements, Dec 2020); CISA 'most secure election' statement; State-level certifications by Republican officials in AZ, GA, PA, MI, WI Overall Veracity: 0% ## Tags - election_denial (90%) - third_party_validation (80%) - implicit_claim (75%) - oliver_stone (70%) - 2020_election (95%) - video_reshare (60%) - epistemic_closure (70%) - thanksgiving_2023 (40%) ## That day _From trump.fm's machine-generated digest of the day, not his words._ **Thanksgiving Leftovers: Evening Rage at Rivals Yields to a Coordinated Afternoon Campaign Targeting Judge Engoron's Family** The day after Thanksgiving was dominated by two impulses: attacking Republican rivals and undermining the judge overseeing his civil fraud trial. The evening before brought sharp jabs at Fox News, Nikki Haley, and the trial itself, followed the next morning by a broadside against Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds for endorsing DeSantis. The most notable pattern was a rapid-fire afternoon cluster of five articles in under two minutes, all targeting Judge Engoron and his wife by name through fringe media outlets. The rest of the day was padded with low-effort link shares touting endorsements, poll numbers, and crowd reception -- the typical grandiose buffer around genuine anxiety about the trial. Full digest for 2023-11-28: https://trump.fm/date/2023-11-28/analysis ## Citation - APA: Trump, D. J. (2023, November 28). OLIVER STONE ON THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION… [Social media post]. Truth Social. trump.fm. https://trump.fm/post/ts_111485817993108946 - MLA: Trump, Donald J. "OLIVER STONE ON THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION…" Truth Social, 28 Nov. 2023. trump.fm, https://trump.fm/post/ts_111485817993108946. 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