# Post ts_111456522286488212 - Post ID: `ts_111456522286488212` - Platform: Truth Social - Posted: 2023-11-22T22:19:23.200Z (UTC) - Deleted: no - Repost: no - Canonical URL: https://trump.fm/post/ts_111456522286488212 - Analysis page: https://trump.fm/post/ts_111456522286488212/analysis ## Post text > https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/12/former-pms-pour-cold-water-on-claims-anthony-pratt-told-them-trumps-us-submarine-secrets ## Engagement - Likes: 8,232 - Reposts: 1,991 - Replies: 124 - Views: unknown - Metrics collected: 2026-02-01T01:19:51.390Z (UTC) # Analysis _Machine-generated by trump.fm on 2026-03-20T11:09:43.575Z (UTC): a model's reading of this post, not his words. Its psychological terms describe the language, not a clinical assessment of him._ ## Summary This post consists entirely of a link to a Guardian article reporting that former Australian Prime Ministers disputed Anthony Pratt had disclosed to them classified US submarine information allegedly shared by Trump. The post carries zero Trump-authored text. Timing (5:19 PM EST, during travel from an Iowa rally) and format strongly indicate aide curation rather than authentic Trump authorship. The rhetorical mechanism is ventriloquism: the Guardian headline is allowed to communicate an implicit exoneration that Trump never directly asserts. Critically, the article addresses only whether Pratt relayed intelligence downstream to Australian officials — not whether Trump disclosed it to Pratt in the first place. This collapse of scope constitutes mild gaslighting for followers who will not read the article. The post represents a defensive operation by Trump's communications staff in response to a national security exposure threat during the classified documents legal pressure period. Clinical signal is low given the absence of Trump's voice; the post's significance is structural and strategic rather than psychologically revealing. # Analysis: ts_111456522286488212 — November 22, 2023 ## Post Overview The post consists entirely of a hyperlink to a Guardian article dated October 12, 2023, with no accompanying text. The article's headline — *"Former PMs pour cold water on claims Anthony Pratt told them Trump's US submarine secrets"* — is the sole communicative content. This unusual format demands structural analysis rather than textual analysis. --- ## Authorship Attribution **Assessment: Likely aide-authored (score: 0.15/1.0) — Medium confidence** Several converging indicators point away from authentic Trump authorship: 1. **Timing:** 22:19 UTC = 17:19 EST. Trump was returning from the Fort Dodge, Iowa rally on this date. Mid-to-late afternoon EST falls squarely in aide-managed posting hours, not Trump's characteristic late-night window (10 PM–3 AM EST). 2. **Format anomaly:** Among the five same-day posts, this is the sole wordless entry. Trump's authentic posts on this date exhibit his unmistakable markers: extended capitalization ("Fake News," "Lamestream Media"), emotional hyperbole ("fallen like a wounded bird from the sky"), run-on constructions, and first-person affect. The bare URL shares none of these features. 3. **Source sophistication:** The Guardian is a UK left-leaning outlet Trump routinely dismisses as "fake news." Selecting it to make a defensive legal point — precisely *because* an adversarial source's headline appears to vindicate him — reflects the kind of strategic media monitoring characteristic of communications staff (historically Dan Scavino and successors), not Trump's organic browsing habits. 4. **Topic complexity:** The submarine-secrets allegation requires sustained awareness of a specific legal/investigative news thread. Staffed comms operations track these threads and respond with curated counter-narrative content. --- ## Substantive Context The underlying story: ABC News and other outlets reported that Trump had allegedly disclosed specific classified details about US nuclear submarines to Anthony Pratt — an Australian-American packaging billionaire and Mar-a-Lago member — including warhead counts and the close-approach distance at which US submarines could operate undetected near Russian vessels. Pratt, a foreign national, allegedly then shared these details with multiple individuals. The Guardian's October 12 article addressed a *narrower* question: did Pratt relay these details to former Australian Prime Ministers (Morrison, Turnbull, Abbott)? The PMs' denials provide the "cold water" headline. This is a secondary factual dispute — about downstream transmission — entirely distinct from the primary allegation about Trump's original disclosure to Pratt. --- ## Rhetorical Analysis **Primary device: Ventriloquism / Implicit Endorsement** The entire persuasive act is performed by the headline. Trump (or his aide) makes no direct claim and thus cannot be fact-checked directly. For the follower who does not read the article — the overwhelming majority — the message received is: *"Credible outlet says submarine story is false."* **Secondary device: Ironic Appeal to Authority** The deployment of The Guardian is rhetorically calculated. An outlet that Trump's base associates with the liberal establishment is used to deliver the exculpatory message, lending it a veneer of cross-ideological credibility ("even they say so"). **Tertiary device: Strategic Ambiguity** By posting without commentary, the author avoids making a falsifiable claim while still communicating a clear narrative position. Plausible deniability is preserved. **Gaslighting dimension:** The post collapses the article's narrow scope — former PMs' secondhand denials — into a blanket refutation of the full submarine-secrets allegation. This is a structurally misleading conflation, but it is achieved through omission rather than direct false statement, consistent with sophisticated rather than impulsive gaslighting. --- ## Psychological State **Narcissistic state: Vulnerable (managed)** The trigger is a narcissistic injury of significant magnitude: being credibly accused of disclosing classified national security information to a foreign national for social capital at a private club. This allegation touches multiple sensitive nodes: competence, patriotism, and legal exposure simultaneously. The response — wordless, measured, externally sourced — represents suppression of the more typical rage response seen in authentic Trump posts about perceived attacks. This suppression is itself informative: the legal sensitivity of the topic (potential Espionage Act exposure) may have prompted staff to manage the response rather than allow organic venting. **Defense mechanisms:** - **Denial** (immature): The link implicitly denies the broader story's validity without direct assertion - **Rationalization** (neurotic): Selecting a narrow counter-data point and using it to rationalize dismissal of the full evidential picture - **Projection** (immature): Framing positions the original reporters and accusers as the unreliable parties --- ## Danger Assessment: **None** No threatening language, dehumanization, eliminationist framing, or mobilization signals are present. This is a purely defensive, legally-oriented post. --- ## Longitudinal Note This post stands structurally apart from the day's other entries. The wordless link format, aide-attribution indicators, and legally sensitive topic combine to suggest a comms-managed defensive operation rather than authentic psychological expression. Its significance lies in what it reveals about the defensive infrastructure managing Trump's public presence during periods of acute legal exposure. ## Fact Verification | Claim | Verdict | Evidence | |-------|---------|----------| | "Former Australian PMs dispute that Anthony Pratt told them about Trump's US submarine secrets (implicit claim via shared link)" | **Mostly True** | The Guardian reported in October 2023 that former PMs Scott Morrison, Malcolm Turnbull, and Tony Abbott denied Pratt briefed them on such intelligence, consistent with the headline. However this is a narrow rebuttal of secondary transmission, not a refutation of the underlying Trump-to-Pratt disclosure allegation. | | "Implicit meta-claim: the submarine-secrets story is discredited (as communicated by the link share to followers)" | **False** | ABC News and other outlets reported on Trump allegedly disclosing specific classified submarine specifications (warhead counts, close-approach distance to Russian vessels) to Pratt — a foreign national at Mar-a-Lago. This primary allegation was not refuted by the Guardian article, which addressed only downstream transmission by Pratt to Australian officials, a distinct factual question. | Overall Veracity: 40% ## Authorship Analysis **Aide-Written** (score: 15%) ### Indicators - Post is a bare URL with zero accompanying text — classic aide curation format - Timestamp 22:19 UTC = 17:19 EST; Trump was traveling from Fort Dodge Iowa rally — business/travel hours, not late-night authentic window - No capitalisation, typos, emotional affect, or stream-of-consciousness language - Topic requires awareness of ongoing classified-documents news cycle — consistent with staffed comms monitoring - The Guardian is a left-leaning UK outlet Trump rarely cites favourably in organic posts; aide selection to leverage adversarial-source credibility is a known Scavino/comms pattern ## Psychological Profile ### State **Vulnerable State** **Trigger:** Narcissistic Injury — Exposure (Anthony Pratt / submarine-secrets reporting alleging Trump disclosed classified US nuclear submarine data to a foreign national) Sentiment: -0.10 ### Clinical **Malignant Narcissism:** - Narcissistic: 30% - Antisocial: 20% - Paranoid: 20% - Sadism: 0% **Defense Mechanisms:** - denial (immature) - rationalization (neurotic) - projection (immature) **Cognitive Complexity:** - Complexity: 0% **Parasocial Techniques:** - Ventriloquism — letting a nominally hostile outlet's headline speak on his behalf, implying even his critics vindicate him ## Danger Assessment **NONE** ### Gaslighting - Headline framing collapses a narrow factual dispute (did Pratt tell PMs?) into apparent refutation of the entire submarine-secrets allegation against Trump - Link-only format prevents followers from engaging with article's actual limited scope - Reframes accusers as the unreliable parties by amplifying their critics ## Fact Checks (2) _The model's verdicts from 2026-03-20._ > Former Australian PMs dispute that Anthony Pratt told them about Trump's US submarine secrets (implicit claim via shared link) **MOSTLY TRUE** The Guardian reported in October 2023 that former PMs Scott Morrison, Malcolm Turnbull, and Tony Abbott denied Pratt briefed them on such intelligence, consistent with the headline. However this is a narrow rebuttal of secondary transmission, not a refutation of the underlying Trump-to-Pratt disclosure allegation. Sources: The Guardian, October 12 2023 > Implicit meta-claim: the submarine-secrets story is discredited (as communicated by the link share to followers) **FALSE** ABC News and other outlets reported on Trump allegedly disclosing specific classified submarine specifications (warhead counts, close-approach distance to Russian vessels) to Pratt — a foreign national at Mar-a-Lago. This primary allegation was not refuted by the Guardian article, which addressed only downstream transmission by Pratt to Australian officials, a distinct factual question. Sources: ABC News reporting on Pratt-Trump submarine secrets, 2023; The Guardian, October 12 2023 Overall Veracity: 40% ## Tags - classified-documents (90%) - submarine-secrets (85%) - aide-authored (80%) - selective-truth (75%) - national-security (70%) - defensive (65%) - link-only (60%) ## That day _From trump.fm's machine-generated digest of the day, not his words._ **Rally-Day Rage Barrage: 45 Posts Flood Iowa With Legal Grievance, Rival Contempt, and Supply Hoarding** Trump spent the day of his Fort Dodge, Iowa rally flooding social media with a mix of campaign boosterism and legal grievance. The morning was dominated by aides sharing a wall of favorable links -- endorsements, polling leads, donor stories -- building a portrait of inevitability. Then Trump himself appeared to take over around mid-morning, unleashing a rapid-fire burst of high-intensity posts attacking prosecutors, judges, DeSantis, Biden, and the media within minutes. The day opened at midnight with a jab at DeSantis over a rival endorsement in Iowa, and the anger never fully dissipated, resurfacing in attacks on the New York fraud trial judge, the Fulton County DA, and the DOJ. A recurring "wounded bird" metaphor used twice about DeSantis was the day's most notable verbal tic. Full digest for 2023-11-22: https://trump.fm/date/2023-11-22/analysis ## Citation - APA: Trump, D. J. (2023, November 22). https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/12/form... [Social media post]. Truth Social. trump.fm. https://trump.fm/post/ts_111456522286488212 - MLA: Trump, Donald J. "https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/12/former-pms-pou..." Truth Social, 22 Nov. 2023. trump.fm, https://trump.fm/post/ts_111456522286488212. Accessed 9 Oct. 2026. - Chicago: Donald J. 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