# Post ts_111239675078172678 - Post ID: `ts_111239675078172678` - Platform: Truth Social - Posted: 2023-10-15T15:12:17.402Z (UTC) - Deleted: no - Repost: no - Canonical URL: https://trump.fm/post/ts_111239675078172678 - Analysis page: https://trump.fm/post/ts_111239675078172678/analysis - Audio narration: https://static.trump.fm/audio/ts_111239675078172678.mp3 (a synthesized voice reading the post text, not a recording) ## Post text > So much for RFK Jr. being a Republican! ## What the media says **Video transcript** (7:13), transcribed automatically, so names and numbers may be wrong. Speakers aren't identified, so a voice in it may not be his: > I really do appreciate your position on the border. I really, you and I are in agreement. You know, it's interesting 'cause everybody's now trying to analyze, you know, whether if there's a three-way race with you, Donald Trump and Joe Biden, you know, who would you more likely draw from? So I hope you don't mind, but I did a little research on you. You're pretty liberal. You know, you've called for curbing, logging, oil drilling, fracking, you wanted to eliminate it. You called it a victory for democracy. You wanna curb US fossil fuel extraction. Keep it in the ground you once tweeted. You wanna ban on fossil fuel extraction, ban on fracking. You called the NRA once a terror group. You've supported over the years Democrats, Gore, Kerry, Obama, Hillary. You've praised Bernie Sanders multiple times. You support affirmative action. So why is this party of yours? Why didn't they even want to allow you to compete? 'Cause that's as pretty liberal of a record as anybody I know. - You have litany of talking points from statements I've made over 40 years. Some of them are stale. Some of them I never said. But, you know, what is your question? Why the Democratic Party, why I'm not running at the Democratic Party? - You know, why did they kick you out? I mean, by the way, I'm giving you comments that you've made in 2016, '17, '19. Endorsements, we know the years, Gore, Kerry, Obama, Hillary, Bernie Sanders. They're all recent quotes. The NRA quote you made about calling them a terror group was 2018. So these are recent positions you've had. I'm not sure why the Democratic Party wouldn't allow you to compete. - Do you wanna talk about my position, Sean? - Yes, sir. - Do you wanna read talking points from the Trump campaign? - Excuse me, these are not talking points. These are called Hannity points. I do my own research. - No, but I saw that same list published this morning by the Trump campaign. It was the exact same list. And again, if you wanna know what my position is on any issue, I'm happy to talk to you about it. - On those positions, you come off, and this is not an insulting thing. You are historically very left of center, very liberal, and I agree with you. Your party treated you horribly. I think you deserve better. I don't like the way your own family even treated you. I thought, you know, if they don't agree with you, they can disagree, but I didn't like what they said about you. To be honest, I think you're being honest in your positions, but I don't think you can convince any conservative that you have any conservative leanings except for a couple of issues. Maybe some conservatives would agree on the border. Maybe some would agree on your vaccine policy, especially with COVID. Where else would you say you're conservative? - Well, I wouldn't describe myself at this point as part of the conservative ideology or the democratic ideology. I would describe myself as part of that common sense ideology. If you ask me, Sean, about any particular issue, I'm happy to tell you what I feel about it, and I also am happy to listen to other people's opinions about it. - All right, I'll ask you. Do you still believe the NRA is a terror group? - I support the Second Amendment like I do all the amendments to the Constitution, and I'm not gonna-- - I can ask you if you support the Second Amendment. You called in 2018. You said Parkland students are right. The NRA is a terror group. Do you believe that? - I don't consider the NRA a terror group. - Do you regret tweeting that in 2018? - Well, I don't recall tweeting it in 2018, but if I did, as I said, Sean, I don't consider them a terror group, and I support the Second Amendment. - Do you regret endorsing Al Gore, John Kerry, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Bernie Sanders over the years? - I don't recall endorsing Bernie Sanders. I like Bernie Sanders. I voted for Barack Obama. I don't regret that. I don't. There's a lot of things about those candidates, the candidates who won, that I was disappointed in. I think that we need to wind down the war machine abroad, and I don't think, and I supported Hillary, and I don't think that as Secretary of State, that she lived up to those expectations. So, but I'm not gonna say that I supported the men, I supported what they believe in. I think I have a common sense approach to politics, and I'm happy, as I said, to talk to you about any of the issues. - No, listen, I'd love to do another town hall with you. I actually enjoyed our time together. Do you stand by your position that you've held, at least since 2012, and through 2019, that I have quotes for, banning fracking, and banning oil and fossil fuel extraction? - I don't, I don't, I've never believed in banning oil, or banning fossil fuel extraction. What I've said is that those industries need to internalize their cause. In other words, it's that, carbon is the most heavily subsidized energy source. There's $5.2 trillion of subsidies that go to big carbon every year, and that doesn't include even the oil wars, that in a real free market economy, the cost of those wars would be reflected in the price of gasoline when you got to the tank. The reason that I've opposed fracking is because it is, it's poisoning water supplies. I've watched the water supply in Dimock, Pennsylvania, where people turned on their faucets on, and they could light a match there. We don't want to poison people, and if fracking's doing that, then, you know, they need to be a push for those people for the cause of it. - And we don't have any real alternatives that are efficient and cost-effective as of now. We'd love to have you back. - Well, that absolutely is not true. That just is not true. - Of course it's true. - That's not true, and I'm happy, I'm happy to talk to you about it, if you can get a chance to talk, please. - All right, well, I'll tell you what, we'll bring it back, and we'll, I'd love to, Maybe we'll do another hour together if you're up for it. I'd be up for to doing that. That'd be great. ## Media - video: https://static-assets-1.truthsocial.com/tmtg:prime-ts-assets/media_attachments/files/111/239/673/005/581/092/original/034ac749d2b600bd.mp4 ## Engagement - Likes: 10,959 - Reposts: 3,204 - Replies: 754 - Views: unknown - Metrics collected: 2026-02-01T01:19:51.394Z (UTC) # Analysis _Machine-generated by trump.fm on 2026-03-24T13:03:30.151Z (UTC): a model's reading of this post, not his words. Its psychological terms describe the language, not a clinical assessment of him._ ## Post Analysis: "So much for RFK Jr. being a Republican!" — October 15, 2023 ### Overview A nine-word dismissal of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., posted on the day RFK Jr.'s independent presidential campaign was gaining visibility following his October 9, 2023 announcement departing the Democratic primary. The attached MP4 (unfetched; likely campaign or media content contextualizing RFK Jr.'s positioning) provides visual framing the text alone cannot. The post is brief, punchy, and mildly competitive — not clinically significant in isolation, but notable for what it reveals about Trump's territorial relationship to Republican identity. --- ### Authorship Attribution **Post time:** 15:12 UTC → **11:12 AM EDT** (Trump's likely location: New York City, attending or proximate to the ongoing civil fraud trial before Judge Engoron in Manhattan). Business-hours timing (11 AM), clean grammar, and absence of typos or ALL CAPS all point toward potential aide involvement (Scavino signature profile). However, the rhetorical construction — the "So much for X" dismissal — is characteristically Trumpian in its economy and contempt. The post may represent authentic dictation lightly formatted, or a Scavino post reflecting an expressed sentiment. The attached video suggests curation effort, slightly increasing aide probability. Overall: **medium confidence, mixed indicators**. --- ### Psychological Analysis **Trigger:** RFK Jr.'s October 9 announcement running as an independent (departing the Democratic primary) had generated media commentary that he might appeal to Republican voters or potentially draw from Trump's base. This post functions as a preemptive territorial expulsion — not a wound, but a boundary-marking maneuver. **Narcissistic State:** Mildly grandiose. The post projects confidence rather than anxiety. Trump implicitly positions himself as the arbiter of Republican authenticity ("he was never really one of us"), a role consistent with his self-conception as the party's defining figure. **Defense Mechanisms:** - *Devaluation (immature):* The "So much for..." construction reduces RFK Jr. to an object of mild mockery — too inconsequential for more than nine words. - *Splitting (immature):* Implicit binary: legitimate Republican identity (Trump) vs. rootless political opportunism (RFK Jr.). **No narcissistic rage present.** The tone is dismissive rather than wounded. RFK Jr. was not attacking Trump; the post appears to be opportunistic positioning rather than injury response. **Motives:** Primarily agentic — power/status maintenance. The post reinforces Trump's monopoly claim on the Republican brand. Near-zero communion motive; this is dominance assertion, not connection-seeking. **Narrative Identity:** Trump casts himself as the stable center of Republican gravity against which others orbit and fall. RFK Jr.'s trajectory — Democrat → independent → (implied) failed Republican flirtation — is presented as proof of instability, which by contrast elevates Trump's consistency. --- ### Rhetorical Analysis **"So much for RFK Jr. being a Republican!"** The "So much for X" construction is a compact rhetorical device that accomplishes several things simultaneously: 1. **Retrospective dismissal:** It frames a prior expectation (however speculative) as having been naive, implying the speaker always knew better. 2. **In-group policing:** It signals to Republican followers that RFK Jr. is not a legitimate member of the tribe — and that Trump is the gatekeeper of that legitimacy. 3. **Dismissal through brevity:** The post's shortness is itself the message. RFK Jr. is not worth sustained engagement. No violent imagery, no dehumanizing language, no stochastic terrorism indicators. Danger level: **none**. --- ### Cognitive Assessment The text is too brief (nine words) for meaningful cognitive complexity assessment. No markers of word-finding difficulty, paraphasia, or tangentiality are detectable. Baseline comparison inapplicable at this length. The surrounding same-day posts are mostly link reposts with no original text — this pattern limits longitudinal assessment of cognitive output for this date. --- ### Contextual Frame Surrounded by aide-curated link shares (RSB Network, LifeSiteNews, DCEnquirer) amplifying favorable coverage: Trump vs. Biden strength framing, Trump crowd comparisons against DeSantis, and "Democrats are Marxists" content. The RFK Jr. post fits this pattern of competitive positioning — reinforcing the Trump-as-inevitable-Republican-nominee narrative while neutralizing potential crossover figures. The civil fraud trial context is notably absent from Trump's output this day; he appears to be actively redirecting attention outward toward rivals rather than engaging legal proceedings defensively. ## Fact Verification | Claim | Verdict | Evidence | |-------|---------|----------| | "RFK Jr. was being considered or positioning as a Republican" | **Half True** | RFK Jr. launched a Democratic primary challenge against Biden in April 2023. His independence announcement came October 9, 2023. He appealed to some right-leaning voters and media commentary speculated about crossover appeal, but he was never formally a Republican candidate or publicly considering registering Republican. Trump's framing implies a more explicit Republican flirtation than the record clearly supports. | Overall Veracity: 50% ## Authorship Analysis **Uncertain** (score: 50%) ### Indicators - Business hours posting (11:12 AM EDT) consistent with aide-managed content - Clean grammar and spelling — no typos or ALL CAPS - Attached video suggests curation effort typical of Scavino posts - However, 'So much for...' dismissal construction is characteristically Trumpian in its brevity and contempt - Reactive competitive content matches Trump's instinct to police Republican identity boundaries ## Psychological Profile ### State **Grandiose State** **Trigger:** Preemptive Attack — Comparison (RFK Jr.) Sentiment: -0.30 ### Clinical **Malignant Narcissism:** - Narcissistic: 30% - Antisocial: 10% - Paranoid: 10% - Sadism: 5% **Defense Mechanisms:** - devaluation (immature) - splitting (immature) **Cognitive Complexity:** - Complexity: 15% **Parasocial Techniques:** - tribal signaling - in-group boundary enforcement ## Fact Checks (1) _The model's verdicts from 2026-03-24._ > RFK Jr. was being considered or positioning as a Republican **HALF TRUE** RFK Jr. launched a Democratic primary challenge against Biden in April 2023. His independence announcement came October 9, 2023. He appealed to some right-leaning voters and media commentary speculated about crossover appeal, but he was never formally a Republican candidate or publicly considering registering Republican. Trump's framing implies a more explicit Republican flirtation than the record clearly supports. Sources: General knowledge of 2023 presidential primary field Overall Veracity: 50% ## Tags - competitor dismissal (85%) - tribal boundary marking (75%) - RFK Jr. (95%) - 2024 primary positioning (70%) - Republican identity gatekeeping (80%) - devaluation (60%) ## That day _From trump.fm's machine-generated digest of the day, not his words._ **Compensatory Grandiosity Machine Runs Full Tilt as Civil Fraud Trial Grinds On** A relatively calm day dominated by victory laps over Louisiana's gubernatorial election, where Trump-endorsed Jeff Landry won without a runoff. The morning opened with a pointed attack on Biden, framing the Hamas crisis as proof of presidential weakness while quietly folding in complaints about his own legal troubles. The bulk of the day was a coordinated media dump -- nearly a dozen favorable article links pushed out in an 18-minute window around midday, almost certainly by staff. The overall mood was self-congratulatory and strategically defensive, with the ongoing New York fraud trial lurking as the unspoken backdrop to the day's relentless positivity campaign. Full digest for 2023-10-15: https://trump.fm/date/2023-10-15/analysis ## Citation - APA: Trump, D. J. (2023, October 15). So much for RFK Jr. being a Republican! [Social media post]. Truth Social. trump.fm. https://trump.fm/post/ts_111239675078172678 - MLA: Trump, Donald J. "So much for RFK Jr. being a Republican!" Truth Social, 15 Oct. 2023. trump.fm, https://trump.fm/post/ts_111239675078172678. Accessed 9 Oct. 2026. - Chicago: Donald J. 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