# Post ts_111231219717195192 - Post ID: `ts_111231219717195192` - Platform: Truth Social - Posted: 2023-10-14T03:21:58.835Z (UTC) - Deleted: no - Repost: no - Canonical URL: https://trump.fm/post/ts_111231219717195192 - Analysis page: https://trump.fm/post/ts_111231219717195192/analysis - Audio narration: https://static.trump.fm/audio/ts_111231219717195192.mp3 (a synthesized voice reading the post text, not a recording) ## Post text > So much for RFK Jr. being a Republican! ## What the media says **Video transcript** (7:13), transcribed automatically, so names and numbers may be wrong. Speakers aren't identified, so a voice in it may not be his: > I really do appreciate your position on the border. I really, you and I are in agreement. You know, it's interesting 'cause everybody's now trying to analyze, you know, whether if there's a three-way race with you, Donald Trump and Joe Biden, you know, who would you more likely draw from? So I hope you don't mind, but I did a little research on you. You're pretty liberal. You know, you've called for curbing, logging, oil drilling, fracking, you wanted to eliminate it. You called it a victory for democracy. You wanna curb US fossil fuel extraction. Keep it in the ground you once tweeted. You wanna ban on fossil fuel extraction, ban on fracking. You called the NRA once a terror group. You've supported over the years Democrats, Gore, Kerry, Obama, Hillary. You've praised Bernie Sanders multiple times. You support affirmative action. So why is this party of yours? Why didn't they even want to allow you to compete? 'Cause that's as pretty liberal of a record as anybody I know. - You have litany of talking points from statements I've made over 40 years. Some of them are stale. Some of them I never said. But, you know, what is your question? Why the Democratic Party, why I'm not running at the Democratic Party? - You know, why did they kick you out? I mean, by the way, I'm giving you comments that you've made in 2016, '17, '19. Endorsements, we know the years, Gore, Kerry, Obama, Hillary, Bernie Sanders. They're all recent quotes. The NRA quote you made about calling them a terror group was 2018. So these are recent positions you've had. I'm not sure why the Democratic Party wouldn't allow you to compete. - Do you wanna talk about my position, Sean? - Yes, sir. - Do you wanna read talking points from the Trump campaign? - Excuse me, these are not talking points. These are called Hannity points. I do my own research. - No, but I saw that same list published this morning by the Trump campaign. It was the exact same list. And again, if you wanna know what my position is on any issue, I'm happy to talk to you about it. - On those positions, you come off, and this is not an insulting thing. You are historically very left of center, very liberal, and I agree with you. Your party treated you horribly. I think you deserve better. I don't like the way your own family even treated you. I thought, you know, if they don't agree with you, they can disagree, but I didn't like what they said about you. To be honest, I think you're being honest in your positions, but I don't think you can convince any conservative that you have any conservative leanings except for a couple of issues. Maybe some conservatives would agree on the border. Maybe some would agree on your vaccine policy, especially with COVID. Where else would you say you're conservative? - Well, I wouldn't describe myself at this point as part of the conservative ideology or the democratic ideology. I would describe myself as part of that common sense ideology. If you ask me, Sean, about any particular issue, I'm happy to tell you what I feel about it, and I also am happy to listen to other people's opinions about it. - All right, I'll ask you. Do you still believe the NRA is a terror group? - I support the Second Amendment like I do all the amendments to the Constitution, and I'm not gonna-- - I can ask you if you support the Second Amendment. You called in 2018. You said Parkland students are right. The NRA is a terror group. Do you believe that? - I don't consider the NRA a terror group. - Do you regret tweeting that in 2018? - Well, I don't recall tweeting it in 2018, but if I did, as I said, Sean, I don't consider them a terror group, and I support the Second Amendment. - Do you regret endorsing Al Gore, John Kerry, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Bernie Sanders over the years? - I don't recall endorsing Bernie Sanders. I like Bernie Sanders. I voted for Barack Obama. I don't regret that. I don't. There's a lot of things about those candidates, the candidates who won, that I was disappointed in. I think that we need to wind down the war machine abroad, and I don't think, and I supported Hillary, and I don't think that as Secretary of State, that she lived up to those expectations. So, but I'm not gonna say that I supported the men, I supported what they believe in. I think I have a common sense approach to politics, and I'm happy, as I said, to talk to you about any of the issues. - No, listen, I'd love to do another town hall with you. I actually enjoyed our time together. Do you stand by your position that you've held, at least since 2012, and through 2019, that I have quotes for, banning fracking, and banning oil and fossil fuel extraction? - I don't, I don't, I've never believed in banning oil, or banning fossil fuel extraction. What I've said is that those industries need to internalize their cause. In other words, it's that, carbon is the most heavily subsidized energy source. There's $5.2 trillion of subsidies that go to big carbon every year, and that doesn't include even the oil wars, that in a real free market economy, the cost of those wars would be reflected in the price of gasoline when you got to the tank. The reason that I've opposed fracking is because it is, it's poisoning water supplies. I've watched the water supply in Dimock, Pennsylvania, where people turned on their faucets on, and they could light a match there. We don't want to poison people, and if fracking's doing that, then, you know, they need to be a push for those people for the cause of it. - And we don't have any real alternatives that are efficient and cost-effective as of now. We'd love to have you back. - Well, that absolutely is not true. That just is not true. - Of course it's true. - That's not true, and I'm happy, I'm happy to talk to you about it, if you can get a chance to talk, please. - All right, well, I'll tell you what, we'll bring it back, and we'll, I'd love to, Maybe we'll do another hour together if you're up for it. I'd be up for to doing that. That'd be great. ## Media - video: https://static-assets-1.truthsocial.com/tmtg:prime-ts-assets/media_attachments/files/111/231/217/627/547/354/original/ea42d46d1e208c01.mp4 ## Engagement - Likes: 11,218 - Reposts: 3,368 - Replies: 858 - Views: unknown - Metrics collected: 2026-02-01T01:19:51.394Z (UTC) # Analysis _Machine-generated by trump.fm on 2026-03-24T12:26:34.184Z (UTC): a model's reading of this post, not his words. Its psychological terms describe the language, not a clinical assessment of him._ ## Post Analysis: "So much for RFK Jr. being a Republican!" (2023-10-14) ### Authorship Attribution **Authentic Trump — High Confidence** UTC timestamp 03:21 converts to 11:21 PM EDT (Trump was almost certainly in the New York/New Jersey corridor, given the ongoing civil fraud trial in Manhattan that had resumed Oct. 2 and had testimony through mid-October). Late-night posting window is squarely within Trump's documented posting rhythm. The post has the hallmarks of authentic authorship: terse, reactive, sarcastic, stream-of-consciousness dismissal with no professional polish, event-anchored to breaking political news (RFK Jr. had formally declared his independent candidacy on October 9, 2023 — five days prior). An aide-drafted post for this event would be more substantive and positioned; this is a two-second dismissal. --- ### Situational Context RFK Jr. had run in the Democratic primary challenging Biden but by early October 2023 announced an independent presidential campaign. This had a dual valence for Trump: (1) RFK Jr. staying Democrat would have divided the liberal base — a Trump-favorable outcome; (2) RFK Jr. going independent could siphon moderate or anti-establishment votes from Trump. The attached video (unfetched per policy) likely contains RFK Jr. remarks clarifying his non-Republican positioning. Trump's framing — "so much for RFK Jr. being a Republican" — implies prior expectation or hope that Kennedy would align with or functionally benefit the GOP. --- ### Psychological Analysis **Trigger:** Political landscape disruption / mild narcissistic repositioning. This is not a narcissistic injury proper — RFK Jr. is not a rival to Trump in the primary — but it does represent a lost strategic asset. The dismissive register rather than rage suggests this is competitive devaluation rather than genuine wound. **Narcissistic State:** Grandiose register. Trump positions himself as the arbiter of political legitimacy ("so much for X being Y" = I am the one who decides what you are). The phrasing performs calm contempt — a dominance posture rather than vulnerability. **Narcissistic Dynamic:** Devaluation. RFK Jr. was implicitly valorized as a potential ally or spoiler-for-Biden; now he is publicly discarded. This executes the splitting mechanism efficiently in seven words: RFK Jr. moves from potentially useful to categorically dismissed. **Defense Mechanisms:** - **Devaluation (immature):** Rapid downgrading of a figure who failed to serve Trump's interests. The "so much for…" construction is a classic devaluation shorthand. - **Rationalization (neurotic):** The post reframes a potentially adverse political development (RFK Jr. drawing from the anti-establishment coalition) as Trump having correctly read Kennedy all along — "I knew this." **Rage Assessment:** Absent. This is cool dismissal, not rage. Intensity is minimal. Proportionality is calibrated. --- ### Level 1 — Big Five Trait Expression - **Extraversion:** Moderate — public performance of indifference, assertive positioning - **Agreeableness:** Low — dismissive, contemptuous register - **Conscientiousness:** Low — reactive, impulsive, no strategic messaging - **Neuroticism:** Mild — reactive to political threat but not destabilized - **Openness:** Low — rigid categorical thinking (Republican vs. not) *Dominant facet: Low agreeableness (antagonism) combined with status-assertion.* --- ### Level 2 — Characteristic Adaptations **Agency motives dominant:** Trump defines political categories. The post asserts his authority to classify who belongs where — a power/status motive dressed as casual observation. No communion motives evident. **Schema revealed:** Political figures have value only insofar as they serve Trump's interests. RFK Jr.'s independent move represents a failed utility rather than a principled choice worthy of engagement. --- ### Level 3 — Narrative Identity - **Protagonist role:** Political kingmaker/category arbiter — the one who foresaw this - **Contamination sequence:** Mild — RFK Jr. was (implicitly) "good" (potential anti-Biden instrument) → now "bad" (independent threat or irrelevance) - **Identity claim:** I understand these people; I am not surprised; I am not threatened - **Contrasting other:** RFK Jr., now relegated to the "not-Republican" (implicitly: not-serious) category --- ### Rhetorical Analysis - **Sarcasm / mock resignation:** "So much for…" is a dismissal formula that performs superiority through feigned exasperation - **False framing:** Implies RFK Jr. had been credibly positioned as Republican when he ran as a Democrat — the rhetorical work here is subtle revisionism that frames Kennedy as having betrayed an expectation - **Economy of contempt:** Seven words execute a full devaluation cycle. Brevity signals the target is not worth more words - **No dehumanizing language, no violent imagery** --- ### Cognitive Status Post is extremely brief, limiting assessment. What's present is coherent, idiomatic, and contextually appropriate. No word-finding difficulty, paraphasia, or temporal confusion observable. Consistent with Trump's baseline brief-dismissal format. --- ### Fact Verification | Claim | Verdict | Evidence | |-------|---------|----------| | "RFK Jr. was being considered or positioned as a Republican" | **Mostly False** | RFK Jr. ran as a Democrat challenging Biden before declaring independent candidacy October 9, 2023. He held some conservative-coded positions generating crossover speculation but never identified as Republican or ran on a Republican ticket. | Overall Veracity: 20% ## Authorship Analysis **Self-Written** (score: 88%) ### Indicators - Late-night post (11:21 PM EDT) - Terse, reactive, unpolished phrasing - Sarcastic dismissal without strategic framing - Event-anchored to RFK Jr. independent declaration (Oct 9, 2023) - Stream-of-consciousness register, no professional structure ## Psychological Profile ### State **Grandiose State** **Trigger:** Preemptive Attack — Comparison (RFK Jr.) Sentiment: -0.35 ### Clinical **Malignant Narcissism:** - Narcissistic: 40% - Antisocial: 10% - Paranoid: 10% - Sadism: 5% **Defense Mechanisms:** - devaluation (immature) - rationalization (neurotic) **Cognitive Complexity:** - Complexity: 25% **Parasocial Techniques:** - shared contempt for establishment figures - audience positioning as insiders who 'knew' Kennedy wasn't reliable ## Fact Checks (1) _The model's verdicts from 2026-03-24._ > RFK Jr. was being considered or positioned as a Republican **MOSTLY FALSE** RFK Jr. ran as a Democrat challenging Biden before declaring independent candidacy October 9, 2023. He held some conservative-coded positions generating crossover speculation but never identified as Republican or ran on a Republican ticket. Sources: RFK Jr. independent campaign announcement, October 9, 2023 Overall Veracity: 20% ## Tags - devaluation (80%) - late-night-posting (90%) - political-dismissal (85%) - RFK-Jr (90%) - status-assertion (70%) - mild-revisionism (40%) ## That day _From trump.fm's machine-generated digest of the day, not his words._ **Trial Anxiety Simmers Beneath Grandiose Surface All Day Before Erupting in Evening Rage Against "Monster" Prosecutor** A busy Saturday of 29 posts started with late-night golf bragging and a Louisiana endorsement, then shifted into a midday firehose of partisan links, pointed attacks on DeSantis (twice called a "wounded bird"), and culture-war broadsides against universities and California. The civil fraud trial was clearly the unspoken driver of the day -- references to Judge Engoron and AG Letitia James leaked into otherwise unrelated posts. By evening, the mask came off entirely with a raw, angry demand to end the "Witch Hunt," calling the attorney general a "monster." A notable stumble -- "RINO Paul RINO" instead of "RINO Paul Ryan" -- and the recycled "wounded bird" metaphor across two separate posts hinted at cognitive rigidity under stress. Full digest for 2023-10-14: https://trump.fm/date/2023-10-14/analysis ## Citation - APA: Trump, D. J. (2023, October 14). So much for RFK Jr. being a Republican! [Social media post]. Truth Social. trump.fm. https://trump.fm/post/ts_111231219717195192 - MLA: Trump, Donald J. "So much for RFK Jr. being a Republican!" Truth Social, 14 Oct. 2023. trump.fm, https://trump.fm/post/ts_111231219717195192. Accessed 9 Oct. 2026. - Chicago: Donald J. 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