# Post ts_111225902537673308 - Post ID: `ts_111225902537673308` - Platform: Truth Social - Posted: 2023-10-13T04:49:45.111Z (UTC) - Deleted: no - Repost: no - Canonical URL: https://trump.fm/post/ts_111225902537673308 - Analysis page: https://trump.fm/post/ts_111225902537673308/analysis - Audio narration: https://static.trump.fm/audio/ts_111225902537673308.mp3 (a synthesized voice reading the post text, not a recording) ## Post text > So much for RFK Jr. being a Republican! ## What the media says **Video transcript** (7:13), transcribed automatically, so names and numbers may be wrong. Speakers aren't identified, so a voice in it may not be his: > I really do appreciate your position on the border. I really, you and I are in agreement. You know, it's interesting 'cause everybody's now trying to analyze, you know, whether if there's a three-way race with you, Donald Trump and Joe Biden, you know, who would you more likely draw from? So I hope you don't mind, but I did a little research on you. You're pretty liberal. You know, you've called for curbing, logging, oil drilling, fracking, you wanted to eliminate it. You called it a victory for democracy. You wanna curb US fossil fuel extraction. Keep it in the ground you once tweeted. You wanna ban on fossil fuel extraction, ban on fracking. You called the NRA once a terror group. You've supported over the years Democrats, Gore, Kerry, Obama, Hillary. You've praised Bernie Sanders multiple times. You support affirmative action. So why is this party of yours? Why didn't they even want to allow you to compete? 'Cause that's as pretty liberal of a record as anybody I know. - You have litany of talking points from statements I've made over 40 years. Some of them are stale. Some of them I never said. But, you know, what is your question? Why the Democratic Party, why I'm not running at the Democratic Party? - You know, why did they kick you out? I mean, by the way, I'm giving you comments that you've made in 2016, '17, '19. Endorsements, we know the years, Gore, Kerry, Obama, Hillary, Bernie Sanders. They're all recent quotes. The NRA quote you made about calling them a terror group was 2018. So these are recent positions you've had. I'm not sure why the Democratic Party wouldn't allow you to compete. - Do you wanna talk about my position, Sean? - Yes, sir. - Do you wanna read talking points from the Trump campaign? - Excuse me, these are not talking points. These are called Hannity points. I do my own research. - No, but I saw that same list published this morning by the Trump campaign. It was the exact same list. And again, if you wanna know what my position is on any issue, I'm happy to talk to you about it. - On those positions, you come off, and this is not an insulting thing. You are historically very left of center, very liberal, and I agree with you. Your party treated you horribly. I think you deserve better. I don't like the way your own family even treated you. I thought, you know, if they don't agree with you, they can disagree, but I didn't like what they said about you. To be honest, I think you're being honest in your positions, but I don't think you can convince any conservative that you have any conservative leanings except for a couple of issues. Maybe some conservatives would agree on the border. Maybe some would agree on your vaccine policy, especially with COVID. Where else would you say you're conservative? - Well, I wouldn't describe myself at this point as part of the conservative ideology or the democratic ideology. I would describe myself as part of that common sense ideology. If you ask me, Sean, about any particular issue, I'm happy to tell you what I feel about it, and I also am happy to listen to other people's opinions about it. - All right, I'll ask you. Do you still believe the NRA is a terror group? - I support the Second Amendment like I do all the amendments to the Constitution, and I'm not gonna-- - I can ask you if you support the Second Amendment. You called in 2018. You said Parkland students are right. The NRA is a terror group. Do you believe that? - I don't consider the NRA a terror group. - Do you regret tweeting that in 2018? - Well, I don't recall tweeting it in 2018, but if I did, as I said, Sean, I don't consider them a terror group, and I support the Second Amendment. - Do you regret endorsing Al Gore, John Kerry, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Bernie Sanders over the years? - I don't recall endorsing Bernie Sanders. I like Bernie Sanders. I voted for Barack Obama. I don't regret that. I don't. There's a lot of things about those candidates, the candidates who won, that I was disappointed in. I think that we need to wind down the war machine abroad, and I don't think, and I supported Hillary, and I don't think that as Secretary of State, that she lived up to those expectations. So, but I'm not gonna say that I supported the men, I supported what they believe in. I think I have a common sense approach to politics, and I'm happy, as I said, to talk to you about any of the issues. - No, listen, I'd love to do another town hall with you. I actually enjoyed our time together. Do you stand by your position that you've held, at least since 2012, and through 2019, that I have quotes for, banning fracking, and banning oil and fossil fuel extraction? - I don't, I don't, I've never believed in banning oil, or banning fossil fuel extraction. What I've said is that those industries need to internalize their cause. In other words, it's that, carbon is the most heavily subsidized energy source. There's $5.2 trillion of subsidies that go to big carbon every year, and that doesn't include even the oil wars, that in a real free market economy, the cost of those wars would be reflected in the price of gasoline when you got to the tank. The reason that I've opposed fracking is because it is, it's poisoning water supplies. I've watched the water supply in Dimock, Pennsylvania, where people turned on their faucets on, and they could light a match there. We don't want to poison people, and if fracking's doing that, then, you know, they need to be a push for those people for the cause of it. - And we don't have any real alternatives that are efficient and cost-effective as of now. We'd love to have you back. - Well, that absolutely is not true. That just is not true. - Of course it's true. - That's not true, and I'm happy, I'm happy to talk to you about it, if you can get a chance to talk, please. - All right, well, I'll tell you what, we'll bring it back, and we'll, I'd love to, Maybe we'll do another hour together if you're up for it. I'd be up for to doing that. That'd be great. ## Media - video: https://static-assets-1.truthsocial.com/tmtg:prime-ts-assets/media_attachments/files/111/225/900/493/520/655/original/5420bfad9e2c834b.mp4 ## Engagement - Likes: 10,514 - Reposts: 3,780 - Replies: 1,076 - Views: unknown - Metrics collected: 2026-02-01T01:19:51.394Z (UTC) # Analysis _Machine-generated by trump.fm on 2026-03-24T12:06:46.099Z (UTC): a model's reading of this post, not his words. Its psychological terms describe the language, not a clinical assessment of him._ # Analysis: "So much for RFK Jr. being a Republican!" — October 13, 2023 ## Authorship & Timing Posted at 04:49 UTC, converting to approximately **12:49 AM Eastern** (Trump was in New York for the ongoing civil fraud trial, UTC-4 in October). This late-night timing falls squarely in the authentic posting window. The impulsive, one-liner sarcasm with no formal structure, no event announcement, and no polished framing is highly consistent with unmediated Trump authorship. Confidence: **high**. ## Contextual Trigger RFK Jr. announced his departure from the Democratic primary on **October 9, 2023** to run as an independent. In the months prior, his vaccine-skeptic and anti-establishment positions had attracted substantial overlap with Trump's base, and conservative media had speculated about his partisan alignment. This post, four days after that announcement, reads as competitive territory-marking: Trump asserting himself as the authentic Republican standard-bearer and publicly devaluing a figure who had been poaching from his audience. ## Psychological Dynamics The trigger is **mild competitive threat** (RFK Jr. drawing conservative interest) rather than acute narcissistic injury. The response is brief and contemptuous rather than lengthy and defensive, indicating a **grandiose rather than vulnerable narcissistic state**. Defense mechanisms are **devaluation** and **splitting** (authentic Republicans vs. pretenders), both immature-level defenses consistent with the broader behavioral baseline. Rage is absent; this is cool dismissiveness — a dominance gesture. ## Rhetorical Mechanics The "so much for X" construction is efficient tribal signaling: it presupposes a prior false expectation, frames it as naive, and delivers the correction in a single breath. Brevity functions as contempt — elaboration would imply RFK Jr. deserves serious engagement. The post simultaneously performs gate-keeping authority (Trump defines Republican belonging) and competitive elimination (RFK Jr. is expelled from the tribal category). ## Comparative Note This post sits within a sequence of October 13 posts ranging from ISIS/geopolitics to Hamas/Israel — a wide emotional and topical range, suggesting multiple posting sessions or mood variation across the day. This post is notably low-intensity compared to others in the sequence. ## Clinical Significance **Not clinically significant.** Post is brief, coherent, purposeful, and fully within established behavioral baseline. No cognitive markers, no danger indicators, no gaslighting. Summary omitted per protocol. ## Fact Verification | Claim | Verdict | Evidence | |-------|---------|----------| | "RFK Jr. was being positioned or considered as a Republican candidate" | **Half True** | RFK Jr. launched his 2024 campaign as a Democratic primary challenger to Biden in April 2023. His vaccine-skeptic, anti-establishment positions attracted significant conservative interest and overlap with Trump's base, leading to media speculation about his political positioning. On October 9, 2023, he announced he was leaving the Democratic primary to run as an independent — not as a Republican. Trump's framing implies a Republican pretension that was never formally claimed by RFK Jr. himself, though it was widely discussed in conservative media. | Overall Veracity: 50% ## Authorship Analysis **Self-Written** (score: 85%) ### Indicators - 12:49 AM Eastern time (EDT, UTC-4) — Trump was in New York for the ongoing civil fraud trial; this is solidly late-night in his local timezone - Extremely brief, reactive, sarcastic construction ('So much for...') - No event announcement, no schedule, no polished framing — pure competitive jab - Casual dismissiveness and one-liner format is characteristic of unmediated posting ## Psychological Profile ### State **Grandiose State** **Trigger:** Narcissistic Injury — Comparison (RFK Jr.) Sentiment: -0.35 ### Clinical **Malignant Narcissism:** - Narcissistic: 40% - Antisocial: 10% - Paranoid: 10% - Sadism: 10% **Defense Mechanisms:** - devaluation (immature) - splitting (immature) **Cognitive Complexity:** - Complexity: 15% **Parasocial Techniques:** - In-group/out-group sorting — invites followers to join in dismissing RFK Jr. - Positioning as arbiter of Republican identity ## Fact Checks (1) _The model's verdicts from 2026-03-24._ > RFK Jr. was being positioned or considered as a Republican candidate **HALF TRUE** RFK Jr. launched his 2024 campaign as a Democratic primary challenger to Biden in April 2023. His vaccine-skeptic, anti-establishment positions attracted significant conservative interest and overlap with Trump's base, leading to media speculation about his political positioning. On October 9, 2023, he announced he was leaving the Democratic primary to run as an independent — not as a Republican. Trump's framing implies a Republican pretension that was never formally claimed by RFK Jr. himself, though it was widely discussed in conservative media. Sources: General knowledge of 2023 presidential campaign timeline Overall Veracity: 50% ## Tags - competitive-devaluation (80%) - tribal-gating (85%) - late-night-authentic (85%) - RFK-Jr (100%) - sarcasm (90%) - republican-identity-claim (80%) ## That day _From trump.fm's machine-generated digest of the day, not his words._ **Six Days After October 7, Trump Converts a Massacre Into a Campaign Ad** Trump spent the day obsessively channeling the October 7 Hamas attack into self-promotion and Biden-blaming, never once acknowledging the victims by name or expressing genuine grief. The morning brought an all-caps rant linking the massacre to the 2020 "stolen" election, and the evening ended with a rapid-fire burst that included his most dangerous claim of the day: that the same people who attacked Israel are now crossing the U.S. southern border. Throughout, the ongoing New York civil fraud trial lurked in the background, surfacing in attacks on Forbes magazine and a persecution-narrative outburst about "witch hunts." Sleep appeared limited to roughly four and a half hours, and the volume and intensity of posts stayed elevated all day. Full digest for 2023-10-13: https://trump.fm/date/2023-10-13/analysis ## Citation - APA: Trump, D. J. (2023, October 13). So much for RFK Jr. being a Republican! [Social media post]. Truth Social. trump.fm. https://trump.fm/post/ts_111225902537673308 - MLA: Trump, Donald J. "So much for RFK Jr. being a Republican!" Truth Social, 13 Oct. 2023. trump.fm, https://trump.fm/post/ts_111225902537673308. Accessed 9 Oct. 2026. - Chicago: Donald J. 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