# Post ts_111219510524654400

- Post ID: `ts_111219510524654400`
- Platform: Truth Social
- Posted: 2023-10-12T01:44:10.815Z (UTC)
- Deleted: no
- Repost: no
- Canonical URL: https://trump.fm/post/ts_111219510524654400
- Analysis page: https://trump.fm/post/ts_111219510524654400/analysis
- Audio narration: https://static.trump.fm/audio/ts_111219510524654400.mp3 (a synthesized voice reading the post text, not a recording)

## Post text

> Under Biden, the same people that attacked Israel—killing, raping, torturing, and maiming innocent civilians—are right now pouring into our once beautiful USA…

## What the media says

**Video transcript** (0:32), transcribed automatically, so names and numbers may be wrong. Speakers aren't identified, so a voice in it may not be his:

> that very interesting. The recent terror attacks are also a reminder of the deadly dangers that we face from Joe Biden's demolition of our own borders here in American soil. Can you imagine what's happening with these people pouring in under Biden? The same people that attacked Israel killing, raping, torturing and maiming innocent civilians are right now pouring into our once beautiful USA. I have to say that once beautiful because what's happened to our country in three years is not even to be believed.

## Media

- video: https://static-assets-1.truthsocial.com/tmtg:prime-ts-assets/media_attachments/files/111/219/510/404/999/990/original/009a0a43a5803e7d.mp4

## Engagement

- Likes: 25,778
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- Metrics collected: 2026-02-01T01:19:51.395Z (UTC)

# Analysis

_Machine-generated by trump.fm on 2026-03-24T12:02:30.670Z (UTC): a model's reading of this post, not his words. Its psychological terms describe the language, not a clinical assessment of him._

## Summary

This post is clinically significant primarily for its antisocial and stochastic terrorism profile. By asserting that Hamas attackers and undocumented migrants are 'the same people,' Trump performs a dehumanizing equivalence before a mass audience at a moment of acute collective terror. The rhetorical architecture — graphic atrocity enumeration, nostalgia formula, trailing ellipsis — is maximally engineered to produce fear and transferable rage against a vulnerable civilian population. Defense mechanisms present: pathological distortion (false factual claim collapsing two distinct populations), splitting, and projection. Stochastic terrorism indicators are met: target class identified, grievance articulated via war crime imagery, urgency implied without explicit incitement. The post is one of at least five same-day dispatches (Firehose pattern), all anchored to the Hamas attack as political supply. Authentic authorship is indicated by late-evening timing (9:44 PM EDT, Wolfeboro NH), trailing ellipsis style, and emotional reactivity. Cognitive functioning is consistent with baseline — no deterioration markers. The post's danger rating is HIGH: not through explicit violence call, but through systematic construction of the moral permission structure — identifying a target, loading them with atrocity associations, and framing the situation as active emergency requiring response.

## Psychological Analysis: Truth Social Post — 2023-10-12T01:44:10Z

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### Authorship Attribution

**Local time:** UTC 01:44 converts to **9:44 PM EDT** (Trump was at a rally in Wolfeboro, NH — Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-4). This is a late-evening post, consistent with authentic Trump authorship patterns.

**Stylistic markers of authentic authorship:**
- Trailing ellipsis ("pouring into our once beautiful USA…") — incomplete/suspended thought, a signature device
- "once beautiful USA" — nostalgic framing characteristic of Trump's brand identity
- Single breathless sentence covering atrocities and immigration in one rhetorical stroke — stream-of-consciousness construction
- No event announcements, no scheduling language, no professional polish
- Emotional reactivity to a live news event (Hamas attack, days prior)

**Verdict:** High confidence authentic Trump. The late-evening timing, suspended rhetorical structure, and raw emotional conflation are consistent with solo authorship.

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### Psychological State and Triggers

The post sits within a cluster of same-day posts all responding to the October 7 Hamas attack. The trigger is complex:

1. **Supply-seeking:** The Hamas attack occurred under Biden, providing Trump with immediate political validation material — he is harvesting narcissistic supply by positioning Biden as causally responsible.
2. **Narcissistic injury (displaced):** Being out of power while a major geopolitical catastrophe unfolded creates a background wound. The post implicitly argues the catastrophe proves his necessity.
3. **Preemptive attack:** By linking Hamas attackers to undocumented migrants, Trump preemptively neutralizes any boundary between foreign and domestic threat narratives.

**Narcissistic state:** Primarily **grandiose** — operating from a position of implied superiority ("under my leadership… Iran was weak"). The vulnerability mode is sublimated into attack.

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### Level 1: Dispositional Traits (Big Five)

- **Extraversion:** High — assertive, dominating rhetorical frame
- **Agreeableness:** Very low — dehumanizing conflation of entire migrant population with mass murderers; zero tender-mindedness
- **Conscientiousness:** Low — impulsive single-sentence construction, no qualifying distinctions
- **Neuroticism (angry hostility):** High — the graphic enumeration of atrocities (killing, raping, torturing, maiming) channels and amplifies collective fear
- **Openness:** Low — closed, binary framing; no nuance admitted

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### Level 2: Characteristic Adaptations

**Agency motives dominant:** Power and control — the post is an implicit argument that only Trump can seal this threat.

**Schemas revealed:**
- **World schema:** Existential, zero-sum. Enemies are always at the gates.
- **Self schema:** Protector-in-exile. America decays without him.
- **Other schema:** Immigrants = terrorists = existential threat. No distinction admitted.

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### Level 3: Narrative Identity

- **Protagonist role:** Absent-guardian. He is not named in this post, but the subtext is entirely about his absence — the implication being "this would not happen if I were here."
- **Narrative sequence:** **Contamination** — America *was* beautiful, now being invaded by those who commit atrocities.
- **Identity claims:** Implicit: Trump is the force that prevented this; Biden is the force that caused it.
- **Contrasting other:** Biden — the contaminating agent whose weakness enabled both foreign attack and domestic "invasion."

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### Level 4: Clinical Indicators

**Malignant Narcissism Assessment:**

- **Narcissistic features:** Grandiosity (implicit self-elevation as the only capable leader), exploitation of atrocity for political supply, entitlement to the presidency framed as national necessity.
- **Antisocial features:** Reckless disregard for the safety of a vulnerable population (migrants) by publicly equating them with mass murderers. This creates real-world harassment/violence risk. No remorse signaling.
- **Paranoid features:** Preoccupation with invasion, internal enemies, the "same people" framing suggesting a unified conspiratorial threat.
- **Ego-syntonic sadism (mild indicator):** The graphic enumeration of atrocities — killing, raping, torturing, maiming — goes beyond what is necessary for the political point. The list is pleasurable as a rhetorical weapon, not purely informational.

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### Defense Mechanisms

1. **Splitting (immature):** World bifurcated into innocent civilian victims (Israelis, Americans) and monstrous perpetrators (Hamas/immigrants collapsed into one category). No middle ground admitted.
2. **Projection (immature):** The violent threat is externalized entirely onto "the other." The rhetorical violence of the post itself — the weaponization of atrocity imagery against a civilian population — is invisible.
3. **Distortion (pathological):** The claim that Hamas attackers and undocumented migrants are "the same people" grotesquely distorts reality. This is not rhetorical exaggeration — it is a reality-restructuring claim presented as factual.

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### Rhetorical Techniques

- **Conflation / false equivalence:** The central rhetorical move — Hamas attackers ≡ border crossers. No evidential bridge is offered; the equation is asserted.
- **Graphic atrocity enumeration:** "killing, raping, torturing, and maiming" — each word amplifying the emotional register. The series is designed to maximize visceral horror before the pivot to immigration.
- **Nostalgia appeal:** "our once beautiful USA" — MAGA's foundational formula: past perfection, present contamination.
- **Ellipsis as implied threat:** The trailing "…" leaves the danger unspecified, which is more frightening than specification. The reader completes the threat.
- **Dehumanization by association:** The migrant population is not accused of crimes but *identified with* perpetrators of mass atrocity. The rhetorical effect is equivalent to calling them rapists and murderers.

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### Stochastic Terrorism Assessment

This post meets multiple criteria:

1. **Target identification:** Migrants/border crossers as a class
2. **Grievance articulation:** They are "the same people" as those who killed, raped, tortured, and maimed
3. **Implied action:** The trailing ellipsis and "pouring into our once beautiful USA" frames the situation as active emergency requiring response
4. **Mass audience amplification:** Broadcast to millions on the eve of ongoing immigration policy debate

The post does not call for violence explicitly, but it constructs the psychological and moral permission structure for violence against migrants by equating them with perpetrators of war crimes. **Stochastic terrorism: present.**

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### Gaslighting / Reality Distortion

- **Reality-distorting claim:** "The same people that attacked Israel… are right now pouring into our… USA" — presented as factual assertion with no evidence. There is zero documented connection between Hamas operatives and US border crossings during this period.
- **Epistemic closure:** The claim is not framed as fear or concern but as established fact, requiring followers to accept a false equivalence as a condition of ideological membership.

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### Danger Assessment

**Level: HIGH**

- Dehumanization of a civilian population (migrants) by equation with perpetrators of mass atrocity
- Stochastic terrorism pattern (target + grievance + implied urgency)
- Reality-distorting factual claim broadcast to millions
- Timing during a period of acute national/international emotional arousal (days after October 7)
- Video attachment likely amplifies emotional impact (content unverified)

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### Cognitive Status

No significant deviation from baseline. Syntax is simple but coherent. Vocabulary is accessible and consistent with Trump's established register. The trailing ellipsis is stylistic, not confabulatory. **Complexity score: consistent with baseline.** No word-finding, paraphasia, or temporal confusion markers present.

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### Fact Verification

| Claim | Verdict | Evidence |
|-------|---------|----------|
| "The same people that attacked Israel — killing, raping, torturing, and maiming innocent civilians — are right now pouring into our once beautiful USA" | **False** | No intelligence assessment, law enforcement data, or journalistic investigation has established a connection between Hamas operatives and US-Mexico border crossings. Hamas is a Gaza-based militant organization; undocumented migrants are primarily economic refugees and asylum seekers from Central/South America. The claim collapses two entirely distinct phenomena into a factual identity assertion with zero evidential support. |
| "Implicit: Biden's policies caused or enabled the Hamas attack on Israel" | **Mostly False** | The $6 billion in Iranian funds (addressed in companion posts) was frozen humanitarian aid largely inaccessible for military use. No credible intelligence or policy analysis establishes a causal link between Biden-era Iran sanctions relief and Hamas's operational funding for the October 7 attack. |

Overall Veracity: 10%

## Authorship Analysis

**Self-Written** (score: 82%)

### Indicators

- Late-evening post: 9:44 PM EDT (Wolfeboro, NH location)
- Trailing ellipsis construction ('pouring into our once beautiful USA…') — signature suspended-thought device
- Nostalgic phrasing 'once beautiful USA' — core MAGA brand formula
- Single breathless sentence conflating foreign atrocity with domestic immigration — stream-of-consciousness
- No scheduling language, event announcements, or professional polish

## Psychological Profile

### State

**Grandiose State**

**Trigger:** Supply Seeking — Comparison (Hamas October 7 attack / Biden administration)

**Rage:** Intensity 72% targeting Biden administration and undocumented migrants (conflated)
- Proportionality: 20%

Sentiment: -0.88

### Clinical

**Malignant Narcissism:**
- Narcissistic: 78%
- Antisocial: 82%
- Paranoid: 75%
- Sadism: 55%

**Defense Mechanisms:**
- distortion (pathological)
- splitting (immature)
- projection (immature)

**Cognitive Complexity:**
- Complexity: 28%

**Parasocial Techniques:**
- Shared victimhood framing — 'our' USA collapses speaker and audience into unified threatened body
- Fear induction through graphic atrocity enumeration before pivot to domestic threat
- Trailing ellipsis invites audience to complete the implied threat

## Danger Assessment

**HIGH**

**Stochastic Terrorism Pattern Detected**

### Indicators

- Dehumanization by association: migrants publicly equated with perpetrators of mass atrocity (killing, raping, torturing, maiming)
- Stochastic terrorism pattern: target class identified + grievance articulated via war crime imagery + urgency implied
- Broadcast to mass audience during period of acute national emotional arousal (5 days post-October 7)
- Reality-distorting factual claim ('the same people') normalizes violence against civilian population
- No distinguishing language — entire migrant population conflated with Hamas operatives
- Trailing ellipsis frames situation as active emergency without explicit incitement (legally insulated)

### Gaslighting

- 'The same people that attacked Israel… are right now pouring into our USA' — presented as factual assertion with zero evidential basis, requiring audience to accept reality distortion as ideological membership test
- Epistemic closure enforced: distinction between Hamas operatives and asylum seekers is erased at the factual level, not the rhetorical level

**Dehumanizing Language Present**

**Violent Imagery Present**

## Fact Checks (2)

_The model's verdicts from 2026-03-24._

> The same people that attacked Israel — killing, raping, torturing, and maiming innocent civilians — are right now pouring into our once beautiful USA

**FALSE**

No intelligence assessment, law enforcement data, or journalistic investigation has established a connection between Hamas operatives and US-Mexico border crossings. Hamas is a Gaza-based militant organization; undocumented migrants are primarily economic refugees and asylum seekers from Central/South America. The claim collapses two entirely distinct phenomena into a factual identity assertion with zero evidential support.

Sources: No WebSearch required — claim is assessable from established knowledge; no credible source has made this connection

> Implicit: Biden's policies caused or enabled the Hamas attack on Israel

**MOSTLY FALSE**

The $6 billion in Iranian funds (addressed in companion posts) was frozen humanitarian aid largely inaccessible for military use. No credible intelligence or policy analysis establishes a causal link between Biden-era Iran sanctions relief and Hamas's operational funding for the October 7 attack.

Sources: Known events: Trump New Hampshire Rally context; general knowledge of $6B claim debunking

Overall Veracity: 10%

## Tags

- stochastic_terrorism (88%)
- dehumanization (85%)
- false_equivalence (92%)
- immigration_fear_mongering (90%)
- israel_hamas_exploitation (85%)
- atrocity_weaponization (87%)
- reality_distortion (83%)
- splitting (80%)
- authentic_authorship (82%)
- contamination_narrative (88%)

## That day

_From trump.fm's machine-generated digest of the day, not his words._

**Post-Rally Blitz Weaponizes Hamas Attack Against Biden and Migrants as Civil Fraud Trial Looms**

Trump spent the evening after a Florida rally firing off a rapid burst of posts exploiting the Hamas attack on Israel to attack Biden, escalating from political contrast to explicitly equating Hamas terrorists with migrants entering the United States. The morning was quiet, with a brief Fox News shout-out, before an intense midday post defending himself against the ongoing civil fraud trial using a Deutsche Bank trophy as proof of his business legitimacy. The day's mood was overwhelmingly grandiose with real flashes of anger, driven by two parallel stressors: a geopolitical crisis seized as political opportunity and a fraud trial experienced as personal threat. The most alarming content came in the evening burst, where graphic atrocity imagery was systematically linked to immigration in a pattern that constructs moral permission for hostility toward a vulnerable population.

Full digest for 2023-10-12: https://trump.fm/date/2023-10-12/analysis

## Citation

- APA: Trump, D. J. (2023, October 12). Under Biden, the same people that attacked... [Social media post]. Truth Social. trump.fm. https://trump.fm/post/ts_111219510524654400
- MLA: Trump, Donald J. "Under Biden, the same people that attacked Israel—killing,..." Truth Social, 12 Oct. 2023. trump.fm, https://trump.fm/post/ts_111219510524654400. Accessed 9 Oct. 2026.
- Chicago: Donald J. Trump, "Under Biden, the same people that attacked Israel—killing,...," Truth Social, October 12, 2023, archived at trump.fm, https://trump.fm/post/ts_111219510524654400.

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