# Post ts_111095533438546197

- Post ID: `ts_111095533438546197`
- Platform: Truth Social
- Posted: 2023-09-20T04:15:10.572Z (UTC)
- Deleted: no
- Repost: no
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## Post text

> “Joe Biden was using his son to get rich, now he’s using his son to obstruct justice. It’s now a crime to get Hunter Biden in trouble.”

## What the media says

**Video transcript** (1:10), transcribed automatically, so names and numbers may be wrong. Speakers aren't identified, so a voice in it may not be his:

> >> He was using his son to get rich and now he's using his son to obstruct justice. This is a cover-up and you can't say that Joe has nothing to do with it. His family is suing the IRS agents who were blocked from pursuing him. And this guy Hunter, you know the guy that walks around probably with a pop collar saying don't you know who my father is you mean Jesse waters, yeah, except my dad's not the president that's Hunter Biden. It's now a crime to get Hunter in trouble right now you get Hunter in trouble you're in trouble and so but this is what the Biden's do they indict Trump. They threaten reporters for covering impeachment. You know anytime you do anything to the Biden's you're the ones that are in trouble. And now they're trying to bankrupt the whistle blowers because these guys don't have a sugar brother with deep pockets financing the lawsuits these guys have no money at all their IRS agents they probably made a $110,000 the last 30 years of their lives. So it's a strategy, I don't think it's going to work. I've never heard of someone get caught for tax evasion by an agent and then suing the agent for catching

## Media

- video: https://static-assets-1.truthsocial.com/tmtg:prime-ts-assets/media_attachments/files/111/095/533/298/021/837/original/df003bd992342e36.mp4

## Engagement

- Likes: 14,158
- Reposts: 4,528
- Replies: 569
- Views: unknown
- Metrics collected: 2026-02-01T01:19:51.398Z (UTC)

# Analysis

_Machine-generated by trump.fm on 2026-03-20T08:41:34.073Z (UTC): a model's reading of this post, not his words. Its psychological terms describe the language, not a clinical assessment of him._

## Summary

Posted at 12:15 AM EDT from Bedminster, NJ — classic authentic-Trump late-night timing — this post responds to Hunter Biden's federal gun indictment by inverting its meaning: accountability becomes evidence of corruption, prosecution becomes obstruction. The mechanism is sophisticated DARVO rather than simple denial. Trump does not claim Hunter is innocent; he claims Biden engineered or controlled the legal process to protect Hunter (the collapsed plea deal) and silence those pursuing more serious financial charges (IRS whistleblowers). The indictment itself is reframed as Biden weaponizing his son against accountability rather than facing it. Psychologically, the post serves a preemptive function: by contaminating the category of 'prosecution' as inherently corrupt and politically motivated, Trump undermines the epistemic basis for his own four simultaneous indictments. The projection dynamic is textbook — the charge leveled at Biden (using family members as financial and political instruments) mirrors precisely the critique leveled at Trump by his opponents. Rage is present but controlled and weaponized rather than reactive; the absence of ALL CAPS or exclamation marks at midnight suggests deliberate composition. No cognitive markers of concern. Danger level is elevated not from this post alone but from its role in a cumulative pattern of justice-system delegitimization at a moment of maximal personal legal exposure — an architectural risk rather than an acute one.

# Analysis: Truth Social Post — 2023-09-20T04:15:10Z

## Post
> "Joe Biden was using his son to get rich, now he's using his son to obstruct justice. It's now a crime to get Hunter Biden in trouble."

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## Authorship Attribution

**Verdict: High confidence authentic Trump.**

UTC 04:15 converts to **12:15 AM EDT** at Bedminster, NJ (confirmed location from the NBC Meet the Press interview that week). Midnight posting is canonical Trump. The post is structurally terse, rhetorically punchy, and lacks the polished grammar of aide-generated content. The parallel construction ("using his son to get rich... using his son to obstruct justice") is typical of Trump's oral-to-text rhythm — a chiastic formula that builds on repetition rather than argumentation. No event announcement, no scheduling, no formal punctuation at close.

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## Contextual Trigger

Hunter Biden's federal gun indictment (three felony charges) dropped in this period after a plea deal collapsed. The IRS Whistleblower Ziegler quote posted the same day sets the frame: Trump constructs a unified conspiracy narrative — Biden used Hunter for graft, the DOJ (under Biden) engineered a minimal plea deal to bury the financial crimes, whistleblowers are being silenced, and the ultimate gun-charge indictment itself is reframed not as accountability but as *cover*, producing "obstruction of justice" rather than justice. This is a coherent (if unverified) conspiratorial reading, not merely incoherent word-salad.

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## Psychological Analysis

### Trigger & Narcissistic Dynamics
The post arrives as Trump himself faces four criminal indictments (federal election interference, classified documents, Georgia RICO, NY business fraud). The trigger is therefore dual: (1) Hunter Biden's indictment provides an *equivalence claim* — "they're doing to Biden what they're doing to me" — and (2) it activates a **preemptive attack** designed to poison the epistemic well around all prosecutorial activity. The goal is not to exonerate himself but to contaminate the concept of legal accountability itself.

Narcissistic state is **mixed/grandiose-with-paranoid undertow**: the post projects special insight ("I see what's really happening") while expressing persecution-by-proxy (the system that targets Trump also silences those who target Biden).

### Defense Mechanisms
1. **Projection (Immature)**: Trump is accused of using his children (Ivanka, Donald Jr., Jared Kushner) to enrich himself and his campaign. This charge is displaced entirely onto Biden. Textual evidence: "Joe Biden was using his son to get rich."
2. **DARVO / Reversal**: The Hunter indictment — facially evidence *against* Biden's family — is recast as evidence *of* Biden's corrupt control of the justice system. Victim (Trump, whistleblowers) and offender (Biden) are reversed.
3. **Splitting (Immature)**: The post operates on a binary moral frame — Biden's DOJ is wholly corrupt, Trump's side is wholly victimized. No partial accountability is imaginable in this schema.
4. **Rationalization (Neurotic)**: The sarcastic final line ("It's now a crime to get Hunter Biden in trouble") provides pseudo-logical packaging for an emotionally driven reality distortion.

### Rage Assessment
Rage is present but **controlled and weaponized** rather than raw. Intensity: 0.5. The language is sharp and constructed rather than explosive — no ALL CAPS, no exclamation marks. This is not narcissistic injury overflow; it is instrumentalized outrage, calibrated for maximum delegitimizing effect.

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## Multi-Level Personality

**Level 1 — Traits:** High neuroticism (hostile facet), very low agreeableness (antagonism, suspicion), moderate extraversion (dominant, assertive). Low conscientiousness in the deliberative sense — the claim about Biden "obstructing justice" via his son's indictment is not carefully argued.

**Level 2 — Motives:** Pure power/agency motivation. No communion markers whatsoever. The post is about dominance in a zero-sum adversarial frame.

**Level 3 — Narrative Identity:**
- **Protagonist role**: Warrior-Seer hybrid — the one who fights AND sees through deception
- **Contrasting other**: Biden as corrupt patriarch weaponizing family for personal power (a mirror narrative to what critics say of Trump)
- **Narrative sequence**: Contamination — Biden's apparent legal accountability is recontextualized as further evidence of the corruption
- **Identity claim**: "I understand this system better than anyone; I am the one who names what is really happening"

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## Rhetorical Techniques

**Parallel/chiastic structure**: "using his son to get rich... using his son to obstruct justice" — the parallelism implies logical equivalence and causality without establishing either. It creates *rhetorical* momentum that substitutes for evidentiary reasoning.

**Ironic reversal**: The final sentence inverts conventional logic — an indictment of Biden's son becomes evidence that Biden is immune. The sarcasm functions as epistemic closure: any legal accountability for Hunter becomes further proof of the system's corruption.

**Whataboutism**: Implicitly deflects from Trump's four indictments by establishing a "they do it too" frame.

**False causality**: The structure implies Biden designed the Hunter prosecution, with no mechanism offered.

**Stochastic element**: Low. This post targets institutional actors and a political family, not private individuals. No violent imagery.

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## Gaslighting & Reality Distortion

The claim that Biden is "using his son to obstruct justice" constitutes a reality distortion: Hunter Biden's prosecution was conducted by Special Counsel David Weiss, originally a Trump-appointed U.S. Attorney in Delaware. There is no documented evidence Biden directed the prosecution's timing or scope to serve his personal interests. The framing inverts the factual record (Biden DOJ prosecuted Biden's son) into evidence of Biden's corrupt impunity. This is deliberate reality inversion, consistent with DARVO methodology.

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## Fact Verification

| Claim | Verdict | Evidence |
|-------|---------|----------|
| "Joe Biden was using his son to get rich" | **Unverifiable** | Congressional investigations alleged financial flows to Biden family members via Hunter's Burisma and Chinese energy company dealings. No direct payment to Joe Biden proven in formal proceedings as of September 2023. IRS whistleblowers alleged preferential treatment but did not establish Joe Biden's personal enrichment. |
| "Biden is using his son to obstruct justice" | **Mostly False** | Hunter Biden's prosecution was led by Special Counsel David Weiss, originally a Trump-appointed U.S. Attorney in Delaware retained by AG Merrick Garland. No documented evidence that Joe Biden directed prosecutorial timing or scope. The claim inverts the factual record: Biden's DOJ prosecuted Biden's son. |
| "It's now a crime to get Hunter Biden in trouble (whistleblowers silenced)" | **False** | IRS Whistleblowers Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler testified publicly before the House Ways and Means Committee and gave extensive media interviews without prosecution. The literal claim that exposing Hunter Biden is criminalized is contradicted by the public record. |

Overall Veracity: 23%

## Archetypes & Order/Chaos Dynamics

**Archetype**: Warrior-Trickster. The post positions Trump as naming a forbidden truth that "mainstream" observers refuse to see. The Trickster element is in the inversion: the prosecution = the crime; the indictment = obstruction. This disrupts conventional epistemic frameworks (indictment = accountability) and replaces them with a counter-narrative accessible only to the initiated.

**Order/Chaos axis**: Order attacker targeting what he frames as *illegitimate* order (a corrupted DOJ protecting the powerful). Trump simultaneously positions himself as the future *restorer* of legitimate order.

**Shadow**: What is projected onto Biden — using family members as financial and political instruments — is precisely the critique leveled at Trump by opponents, creating a classic shadow-projection dynamic.

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## Cognitive Assessment

No significant cognitive markers in this post. The parallel construction is tight and intentional. Vocabulary is simple but the logical structure (even if rhetorically deceptive) is internally coherent. No word-finding pauses, no temporal confusion, no perseveration. **Complexity score: 0.35** (simple constructions, limited vocabulary) — consistent with Trump's documented baseline rather than deviation from it.

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## Danger Assessment

**Elevated.** This post is not directly inciting violence and contains no eliminationist language. However, it advances a systematic delegitimization of the U.S. justice system at a moment when Trump is personally subject to multiple indictments. The cumulative pattern of such posts — framing all prosecutorial activity as corruption — erodes institutional trust and creates conditions in which supporters may view extra-legal resistance as justified. No single post is the trigger; the danger is longitudinal and architectural.

## Authorship Analysis

**Self-Written** (score: 88%)

### Indicators

- 12:15 AM EDT posting time (Bedminster, NJ)
- Pithy parallel rhetorical construction typical of Trump's oral style
- No formal punctuation, no event announcement, no polished grammar
- Emotionally reactive framing of breaking news (Hunter indictment)
- Short punchy sentences without aide-style elaboration

## Psychological Profile

### State

**Mixed State**

**Trigger:** Preemptive Attack — Comparison (Hunter Biden federal gun indictment; Trump's own multiple simultaneous indictments)

**Rage:** Intensity 50% targeting Joe Biden and DOJ as institutional actors
- Proportionality: 30%

Sentiment: -0.72

**Mildly Hypomanic**
- Midnight posting on political topic (12:15 AM)
- Multiple posts across same day on different political topics (Roe v. Wade, auto industry, Hunter Biden)
- Tight, energized rhetorical construction suggesting engaged rather than fatigued mental state

### Clinical

**Malignant Narcissism:**
- Narcissistic: 72%
- Antisocial: 50%
- Paranoid: 65%
- Sadism: 25%

**Defense Mechanisms:**
- projection (immature)
- passive aggression (immature)
- splitting (immature)
- rationalization (neurotic)

**Cognitive Complexity:**
- Complexity: 35%

**Parasocial Techniques:**
- Insider knowledge framing — positions audience as recipients of truth others cannot see
- Shared grievance activation — 'they' silence accountability attempts
- Epistemic closure — any counter-evidence (indictment of Hunter) is reframed as further proof of corruption

## Danger Assessment

**ELEVATED**

### Indicators

- Systematic delegitimization of prosecutorial institutions at moment of Trump's maximum personal legal exposure
- Epistemic architecture that preemptively frames any indictment as corruption — creates logical scaffolding for extra-legal resistance
- Consistent with longitudinal pattern of justice-system contamination across multiple posts — architectural rather than acute risk
- IRS whistleblower amplification (same-day Ziegler quote post) suggests coordinated grievance narrative, not isolated reaction

### Gaslighting

- Reality inversion: Hunter Biden indictment (evidence of accountability) reframed as evidence of Biden's corrupt control of DOJ
- DARVO: Reverses victim (Trump, whistleblowers) and offender (Biden) — Biden's family being prosecuted becomes proof Biden is above the law
- Epistemic closure enforcement: any legal action against Hunter is pre-interpreted as corrupt maneuvering, making counter-evidence impossible
- Implicit loyalty test: accepting this framing requires rejecting the conventional interpretation of an indictment as accountability

## Fact Checks (3)

_The model's verdicts from 2026-03-20._

> Joe Biden was using his son to get rich

**UNVERIFIABLE**

Congressional investigations alleged financial flows to Biden family members via Hunter's Burisma and Chinese energy company dealings. No direct payment to Joe Biden proven in formal proceedings as of September 2023. IRS whistleblowers alleged preferential treatment but did not establish Joe Biden's personal enrichment.

Sources: House Oversight Committee hearings 2023; IRS Whistleblower Shapley/Ziegler testimony

> Biden is using his son to obstruct justice

**MOSTLY FALSE**

Hunter Biden's prosecution was led by Special Counsel David Weiss, originally a Trump-appointed U.S. Attorney in Delaware retained by AG Merrick Garland. No documented evidence that Joe Biden directed prosecutorial timing or scope. The claim inverts the factual record: Biden's DOJ prosecuted Biden's son.

Sources: DOJ Special Counsel appointment of David Weiss, August 2023; Senate confirmation records for Weiss

> It's now a crime to get Hunter Biden in trouble (whistleblowers silenced)

**FALSE**

IRS Whistleblowers Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler testified publicly before the House Ways and Means Committee and gave extensive media interviews without prosecution. The literal claim that exposing Hunter Biden is criminalized is contradicted by the public record.

Sources: House Ways and Means Committee testimony, July 2023; IRS Whistleblower Ziegler media appearances

Overall Veracity: 23%

## Tags

- projection (90%)
- DARVO (88%)
- Hunter_Biden (95%)
- justice_system_delegitimization (85%)
- midnight_post (80%)
- whataboutism (75%)
- preemptive_attack (82%)
- parallel_construction (70%)
- splitting (72%)
- epistemic_closure (78%)

## That day

_From trump.fm's machine-generated digest of the day, not his words._

**Under Legal Siege, Trump Floods Feed with Biden Counter-Narrative While Posting Past 2 AM**

Trump spent the day running a sustained counter-offensive against Biden, triggered by Biden's UN speech, the Hunter Biden indictment, and a new gag order request from Jack Smith. The morning and midday were dominated by attacks on Biden — calling him corrupt, mocking his UN delivery, and flooding the feed with partisan news links about Hunter. Brief flashes of anger surfaced around accusations of election interference and the gag order, but rage stayed controlled and strategic rather than spiraling. Late-night posting past 2 AM before a travel day to Iowa suggests limited sleep, though the day's output was mostly staff-managed link shares rather than personal rants.

Full digest for 2023-09-20: https://trump.fm/date/2023-09-20/analysis

## Citation

- APA: Trump, D. J. (2023, September 20). “Joe Biden was using his son to get rich, now... [Social media post]. Truth Social. trump.fm. https://trump.fm/post/ts_111095533438546197
- MLA: Trump, Donald J. "“Joe Biden was using his son to get rich, now he’s using..." Truth Social, 20 Sep. 2023. trump.fm, https://trump.fm/post/ts_111095533438546197. Accessed 9 Oct. 2026.
- Chicago: Donald J. Trump, "“Joe Biden was using his son to get rich, now he’s using...," Truth Social, September 20, 2023, archived at trump.fm, https://trump.fm/post/ts_111095533438546197.

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