# Post ts_111095527598107491

- Post ID: `ts_111095527598107491`
- Platform: Truth Social
- Posted: 2023-09-20T04:13:41.405Z (UTC)
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## Post text

> IRS Whistleblower Joseph Ziegler: “The Biden family attorneys have given up on arguing the facts anymore, and now have decided their best defense is to muzzle us and intimidate us, and it’s not going to work.”

## What the media says

**Video transcript** (9:44), transcribed automatically, so names and numbers may be wrong. Speakers aren't identified, so a voice in it may not be his:

> Pulitzer Prize-winning poet Carl Sandburg famously said money is power, freedom, a cushion, and the root of all evil. Cash has been king for centuries, and people with cash have always found creative ways of concealing it. During the Roman Empire, the Romans used to hide their coins in wine vases. But in the mid-20th century, shell companies became the new wine vase. And it wasn't just tycoons using shells. It was drug dealers, it was the mob, it was even the CIA. First, CIA itself set up a number of dummy foundations, calling them by impressive sounding of meaningless names. Their sole function was to channel money from the CIA to a second kind of foundation. Now these foundations were real. Some obscure, some well-known, all involved in legitimate philanthropy. But now, in addition, they agreed to become conduits for central intelligence, mixing up the government money with their own, and then passing it on to the ever-growing list of private organizations, which during the 40s, 50s, and 60s were climbing aboard the CIA payroll. But a wise statesman with something to hide knows better than to use CIA tactics. The 20 shell companies of the Biden family are a labyrinth that the IRS whistleblowers were blocked from cracking. House investigators say foreigners may have laundered up to $50 million into Biden family accounts. So where'd the money go? Where's the 10% being held for the big guy? We know that the Bidens had offshore accounts, but what if Joe Biden wasn't paid in cash? Remember this three-carat diamond the Chinese gave Hunter? It was worth around 80 grand? That diamond is starting to look like a sloppy mistake, because it turns out that wasn't the only diamond. The Biden family's Chinese business partners actually purchased $23 million in diamonds between 2016 and '17. There it is, 18 different jewelry transactions. So the Biden family was doing business with Chinese diamond dealers. Everybody knows diamonds, a time-tested way to launder money and hide that money from IRS agents. Diamonds in art, both spaces that Hunter plays it. There's no paper trail or record keeping with diamond transactions. The Biden family business partner Yi Jingming owned a Chinese energy company, but his books kind of look like Tiffany's. This wasn't the first time the Bidens avoided cash. The Ukrainians gave Hunter a $100,000 watch. The Kazakhstanis gave Hunter a $140,000 Porsche, and the Chinese gave Hunter diamonds. Joe Biden had dinner with everybody who lavished Hunter with luxurious gifts. Now, do legitimate American businessmen get paid by foreign clients in diamonds, cars, and watches? No, these look like bribes. We may not realize the total number of bribes or locate Biden's offshore funds or know the source of the funds if diamonds were involved. We don't know how many decades this was going on because as we showed you Friday, Joe and Hunter had been working rooms together their whole lives. In 2005, fresh off giving a speech at the Jefferson Jackson Day dinner in South Carolina, Senator Joe Biden was caught on tape shaking hands and schmoozing with Hunter right by his side. Now, you'll see a casual conversation about family smoothly turns into business, watch. I'm a grandfather. It's wonderful. It's hard. Yeah. I know. I know. Rich has mostly grand sons. It's great. Yeah. Well, maybe he can work something out, man. Yeah. Yeah. That's what we'll do. Hunter was just telling about his firm in Washington. Yeah. Long firm. Yeah. You have a hard time. I do. I don't. But I'll give you my... Yeah. And then I'll get... I gave it away. Yeah. Well, that was a wonderful speech. Thank you so much. That was fun. Or was that... Are you... You're hearing something. Or... It's involved and interesting. That's like, really know where to go and what to do. Around 10 years after that, the Bidens were in business together again on the European continent. Vice President Joe Biden was visiting Ukraine. Weeks later, his son gets a board seat on Burisma. A month later, Vice President Joe Biden visits Romania, and a year later, Hunter gets a million dollars from the Romanians. Now, this is where it gets really fishy. The White House stenographer tells Primetime, "A day later, the Vice President peeled away from the press to visit Cyprus, a tiny island in the middle of the Mediterranean." Now, it had been 50 years since an American with Biden's political resume had visited Cyprus. People have asked me, "What's in this for the United States?" I tell you, President Obama and I believe that Cyprus is a key partner in a challenging region. But what's really in Cyprus? Burisma is incorporated in Cyprus. It's also where the Romanians' real estate company was incorporated. And Cyprus just happens to be where Russians move their rubles to avoid Ukraine war sanctions. Our Cypriot producer says the locals all say Cyprus is the place you go in Europe if you want to launder money. So, Biden, shaking off the press for a surprise visit to the Cayman Islands of the Mediterranean, where his family had millions in shady business moving through. Come on. Now, Biden's been able to avoid scrutiny for so long. It's no wonder he thinks he's untouchable. But when you follow the money, you don't need luck. The Bidens know this. So, the Biden family has launched a war on the whistleblowers. In order to intimidate IRS agents and anybody else who dares to pursue corruption, Hunter Biden's lawyers have sued the IRS for embarrassing him. They claim his confidential tax information has been exposed. And you know how much Hunter hates being exposed. IRS whistleblower Joseph Ziegler joins me now. Joseph, when you hear as an agent about diamonds, what kind of alarm bells does that set off? Jesse, thank you so much for having me, so when it comes to diamonds, anything that is given to someone, what we would look to in a normal investigation is how did that person receive that diamond? What was the purpose for them receiving that diamond? Was it a gift? Was it a loan or was it for services rendered? So those would be the things that we would look into. When you see a Chinese company purchase $23 million in diamonds, 18 different transactions, does that make you suspicious of anything? Yeah, so I don't want to speak to anything that that might be. What I can tell you is in a normal investigation, what we would do is we try to trace back that transaction. We tried to figure out where this came from. We would interview witnesses. We would do all sorts of things to establish why that diamond was given to someone. Cyprus. What reputation does Cyprus have? So I don't know any of the exact—I do know of Cyprus. Cyprus has come up as a part of investigations within the IRS. I can't speak to any specifics of Cyprus. Okay, you can talk about the reputation of that island with regards to taxes, money laundering. I can't speak to any of the specifics of that on this interview. Okay. I'm going to leave then there at that—Joseph, your agency is being sued by Hunter Biden. When you heard about that lawsuit, what went through your mind? Yeah, I think that the Biden family attorneys have given up on arguing the facts anymore and now have decided their best defense is to muzzle us and intimidate us. And it's not going to work. We're not—we won't be muzzled. And we're not going to distract from the mounds of evidence that are coming forward to the House Ways and Means Committee, that they're uncovering daily. They're trying to distract from recent testimony by IRS employees that established two things, two things most recently, that being that the D.C., the District of D.C., the President Biden U.S. attorney declined to partner with bringing charges in that district, and that the President Biden-appointed U.S. attorney in the Central District of California also said no to bringing charges in that district. All of this information is available on the House Ways and Means website and is available—like, you can go onto their website and view our testimony, so it's publicly available. All right. Well, you're a brave man. Keep up the good work, and we'll be following up with you as this develops. Thank you so much, Joseph.

## Media

- video: https://static-assets-1.truthsocial.com/tmtg:prime-ts-assets/media_attachments/files/111/095/527/135/457/738/original/c65bd628ad42c7cc.mp4

## Engagement

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# Analysis

_Machine-generated by trump.fm on 2026-03-20T08:40:05.067Z (UTC): a model's reading of this post, not his words. Its psychological terms describe the language, not a clinical assessment of him._

## Summary

Posted at 12:13 AM Eastern time, this post consists entirely of a quoted statement from IRS Whistleblower Joseph Ziegler alleging that Biden family attorneys are attempting to "muzzle" and "intimidate" federal whistleblowers. The most clinically salient feature is a striking projection dynamic: Trump was simultaneously the subject of a Jack Smith gag order request — a literal governmental muzzling effort — yet amplifies content using identical language directed at Biden's legal team. The unconscious attribution of one's own constraining situation to one's opponent is textbook immature defense. The post also demonstrates DARVO by proxy, recasting Biden's attorneys as authoritarian oppressors while Trump's preferred narrative allies (whistleblowers) assume victim status. The grandiose/vulnerable oscillation visible within the day's posting sequence — adjacent posts claim world-historical abortion achievement ("I got the job done!") while this post adopts persecuted-truth-teller posture via identification with Ziegler — is consistent with narcissistic self-state cycling under sustained legal pressure. Authorship is likely authentic given the 12:13 AM EDT timestamp. No danger indicators are present. The rhetorical sophistication of using a whistleblower's institutional authority to deliver an attack Trump cannot credibly deliver personally reflects adaptive political calculation rather than impulsivity.

## Psychological Analysis: ts_111095527598107491

### Situational Context
Posted at **12:13 AM EDT** on September 20, 2023. Trump is simultaneously navigating: a Jack Smith gag order request targeting his statements about witnesses; Georgia trial severance; and the unfolding IRS whistleblower narrative around Hunter Biden's preferential treatment allegations. The post is composed entirely of a quotation from IRS Whistleblower Joseph Ziegler.

### Level 1: Dispositional Traits
The post's selection reveals low agreeableness (adversarial framing of Biden's legal team as oppressors), moderate-high agency orientation, and no visible conscientious deliberation — this reads as reactive amplification rather than strategic messaging. Neuroticism is subdued; there is no visible emotional dysregulation.

### Level 2: Characteristic Adaptations
Dominant motive: **power/status maintenance** through counter-narrative seeding. The choice to amplify rather than originate reflects a secondary goal of **plausible deniability** — a recurring adaptation in Trump's communication when direct claims carry legal or reputational risk.

### Level 3: Narrative Identity
Trump casts himself obliquely as the persecuted truth-seeker through identification with Ziegler. The protagonist is the whistleblower; Trump is the amplifier. The contamination sequence is implied: *legitimate investigation → corrupt suppression by powerful attorneys*. Contrasting other: Biden family and their legal team.

### Level 4: Clinical Indicators

**Projection (high confidence):** The symmetry with Trump's own gag order situation is striking. Jack Smith sought to restrict Trump's inflammatory statements about witnesses (precisely what "muzzle" denotes) in mid-September, days before this post. Trump amplifies content using identical framing directed at Biden. The unconscious attribution of one's own situation to the opponent is textbook projection.

**DARVO by proxy:** The Deny-Attack-Reverse Victim and Offender dynamic is executed through Ziegler's voice: Biden's attorneys become the aggressors; the whistleblowers (aligned with Trump's narrative interests) become the victims. Trump himself is not named but is implicitly encompassed within the pattern.

**Narcissistic oscillation:** Adjacent posts show Trump in grandiose mode (abortion claim: "I got the job done... something nobody thought was possible"). This post shifts to victimized/persecuted posture via proxy. The rapid cycling between expansive grandiosity and persecution narrative within the same posting window is consistent with the documented instability of narcissistic self-states under legal pressure.

### Cognitive Status
The post contains no original Trump prose — cognitive assessment from this sample alone is not possible. No basis for deviation flagging.

### Authorship
**Likely authentic (medium confidence):** 12:13 AM EDT timing is within the documented Trump late-night posting window. The format (bare quotation, no aide-typical scheduling or event language) is consistent with impulsive media consumption and reposting. No definitive stylometric markers present due to absence of original text.

### Danger Assessment
**None.** No eliminationist language, dehumanization, or stochastic terrorism indicators. Standard opposition-research amplification within normal political attack parameters.

### Fact Verification

| Claim | Verdict | Evidence |
|-------|---------|----------|
| "Biden family attorneys have given up on arguing the facts" | **Unverifiable** | This is a characterization by Ziegler of opposing counsel strategy, not a verifiable factual claim. No public record confirms or refutes the internal strategic reasoning of Biden family attorneys. |
| "Biden family attorneys decided their best defense is to muzzle and intimidate whistleblowers" | **Mostly False** | Biden family attorneys did file legal challenges to the scope of IRS whistleblower testimony, including privilege assertions. This is standard legal procedure, not documented 'muzzling' or 'intimidation' as those terms imply improper conduct. The characterization reflects Ziegler's adversarial framing. |

Overall Veracity: 35%

## Authorship Analysis

**Self-Written** (score: 72%)

### Indicators

- Posted at 00:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time (UTC-4, September = EDT) — classic late-night authentic Trump window
- Content is a bare quotation with no original Trump prose — limits stylometric analysis
- Simple copy-paste format without polish or scheduling markers
- No typos or ALL CAPS, but absence of Trump's own voice is consistent with late-night repost behavior rather than aide composition
- Surrounding posts in the same date window include aide-style formatted campaign links ('Join Team Trump today'), suggesting mixed authorship day

## Psychological Profile

### State

**Mixed State**

**Trigger:** Preemptive Attack — Exposure (Jack Smith gag order request and overlapping personal legal jeopardy)

Sentiment: -0.55

### Clinical

**Malignant Narcissism:**
- Narcissistic: 35%
- Antisocial: 20%
- Paranoid: 45%
- Sadism: 10%

**Defense Mechanisms:**
- projection (immature)
- displacement (immature)
- rationalization (neurotic)

**Cognitive Complexity:**
- Complexity: 30%

**Parasocial Techniques:**
- Proxy authority lending — borrowing whistleblower's institutional credibility to deliver attack Trump cannot deliver as credibly himself
- Victim-by-association framing — casting Ziegler as martyr implies Trump is similarly persecuted
- Late-night ambient seeding — plants narrative in followers' feeds before morning news cycle

## Fact Checks (2)

_The model's verdicts from 2026-03-20._

> Biden family attorneys have given up on arguing the facts

**UNVERIFIABLE**

This is a characterization by Ziegler of opposing counsel strategy, not a verifiable factual claim. No public record confirms or refutes the internal strategic reasoning of Biden family attorneys.

Sources: Ziegler's public testimony and statements, September 2023

> Biden family attorneys decided their best defense is to muzzle and intimidate whistleblowers

**MOSTLY FALSE**

Biden family attorneys did file legal challenges to the scope of IRS whistleblower testimony, including privilege assertions. This is standard legal procedure, not documented 'muzzling' or 'intimidation' as those terms imply improper conduct. The characterization reflects Ziegler's adversarial framing.

Sources: Congressional testimony records, IRS whistleblower proceedings, summer-fall 2023

Overall Veracity: 35%

## Tags

- proxy-attack (90%)
- projection (85%)
- DARVO (75%)
- whataboutism (80%)
- Biden-counter-narrative (90%)
- whistleblower-amplification (85%)
- late-night-authentic (70%)
- narcissistic-oscillation (65%)
- legal-jeopardy-period (80%)

## That day

_From trump.fm's machine-generated digest of the day, not his words._

**Under Legal Siege, Trump Floods Feed with Biden Counter-Narrative While Posting Past 2 AM**

Trump spent the day running a sustained counter-offensive against Biden, triggered by Biden's UN speech, the Hunter Biden indictment, and a new gag order request from Jack Smith. The morning and midday were dominated by attacks on Biden — calling him corrupt, mocking his UN delivery, and flooding the feed with partisan news links about Hunter. Brief flashes of anger surfaced around accusations of election interference and the gag order, but rage stayed controlled and strategic rather than spiraling. Late-night posting past 2 AM before a travel day to Iowa suggests limited sleep, though the day's output was mostly staff-managed link shares rather than personal rants.

Full digest for 2023-09-20: https://trump.fm/date/2023-09-20/analysis

## Citation

- APA: Trump, D. J. (2023, September 20). IRS Whistleblower Joseph Ziegler: “The Biden... [Social media post]. Truth Social. trump.fm. https://trump.fm/post/ts_111095527598107491
- MLA: Trump, Donald J. "IRS Whistleblower Joseph Ziegler: “The Biden family..." Truth Social, 20 Sep. 2023. trump.fm, https://trump.fm/post/ts_111095527598107491. Accessed 9 Oct. 2026.
- Chicago: Donald J. Trump, "IRS Whistleblower Joseph Ziegler: “The Biden family...," Truth Social, September 20, 2023, archived at trump.fm, https://trump.fm/post/ts_111095527598107491.

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