# Post ts_111019762094553476 - Post ID: `ts_111019762094553476` - Platform: Truth Social - Posted: 2023-09-06T19:05:31.566Z (UTC) - Deleted: no - Repost: no - Canonical URL: https://trump.fm/post/ts_111019762094553476 - Analysis page: https://trump.fm/post/ts_111019762094553476/analysis - Audio narration: https://static.trump.fm/audio/ts_111019762094553476.mp3 (a synthesized voice reading the post text, not a recording) ## Post text > Was just watching Mike Pence make up stories about me, which are absolutely false. I never said for him to put me before the Constitution—I don’t talk that way, and wouldn’t even think to suggest it. Mike failed badly on calling out Voter Fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election, and based on the fact that he is at approximately 2% in the Polls, with no money or support, he obviously did the wrong thing. His advisors have led him down a very bad path! ## Engagement - Likes: 20,238 - Reposts: 5,300 - Replies: 1,375 - Views: unknown - Metrics collected: 2026-02-01T01:19:51.399Z (UTC) # Analysis _Machine-generated by trump.fm on 2026-03-20T08:24:03.294Z (UTC): a model's reading of this post, not his words. Its psychological terms describe the language, not a clinical assessment of him._ ## Summary Posted on the day Trump waived his Georgia arraignment — on charges centrally involving pressure on Pence — this post exhibits a textbook narcissistic injury response to Pence's television appearance discussing January 6. The reactive 'Was just watching' construction identifies the trigger as live TV, consistent with authentic Trump authorship despite business-hours timing. A complete DARVO sequence is present: denial of documented pressure campaign ('I never said for him to put me before the Constitution'), attack on Pence's credibility ('make up stories'), and reversal of victim-offender positioning. The denial is clinically notable for its dissociative quality — Trump appears genuinely unable to integrate the extensive evidentiary record (Eastman memos, sworn testimony, Pence's own account) with his self-narrative. Devaluation via poll numbers functions as consequentialist epistemology: Pence is wrong *because* he is failing at 2%, converting a constitutional accountability question into a political performance contest Trump wins. The final sentence ('His advisors have led him down a very bad path') paradoxically undermines the attack by removing Pence's moral agency. No dangerous rhetoric or dehumanizing language is present. Cognitive function appears within established baseline. The post is most significant as a document of defensive self-narrative maintenance under simultaneous legal and testimonial assault. # Psychological Analysis: Truth Social Post — 2023-09-06 19:05:31 UTC ## Contextual Frame This post lands on the exact day Trump **waived his Georgia arraignment**, having been indicted on 13 felony counts for conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election — charges that centrally involve pressure on Mike Pence to reject or delay certification. The psychological pressure of that legal convergence is palpable in the reactive, mid-afternoon post. Earlier same-day posts sharing Nixon-praising-Trump links reveal a supply-seeking morning followed by a triggered afternoon. --- ## Authorship Attribution **UTC 19:05:31 = 15:05 EDT** (September, Eastern Daylight Time, UTC−4). Trump was almost certainly in the New York/Bedminster area given legal proceedings. This is **mid-afternoon, business hours** — a timing profile more consistent with aide involvement. However, the internal evidence cuts strongly against pure aide authorship: - "**Was just watching**" — reactive, present-tense TV-watching confession; highly idiomatic Trump - Absence of event framing or scheduling content - Logical non-sequitur (Pence's poll numbers as moral proof) — a distinctly Trumpian rhetorical tic - Exclamation point closing, fragmented final sentence ("His advisors have led him down a very bad path!") - Nearly identical style and target to the companion post earlier that day ("Dark Side") **Assessment:** Likely authentic Trump, possibly with light aide polish on punctuation. The "Was just watching" construction is a signature real-time reactive tell. **Confidence: medium-high.** --- ## Psychological Trigger Analysis **Primary trigger:** Narcissistic injury via live television. Pence's on-air statements — directly contradicting Trump's self-narrative on January 6 — constitute public exposure of conduct Trump cannot consciously integrate. The Georgia arraignment context amplifies this: the precise allegation Pence is discussing (pressure to subvert certification) is simultaneously the subject of a criminal indictment. **Trigger type:** Narcissistic injury (exposure + unfavorable comparison) **Injury source:** Pence's credibility threat to Trump's self-exculpatory narrative --- ## Narcissistic Dynamics **State: Mixed grandiose/vulnerable.** The post opens in a vulnerable, reactive posture ("make up stories about me") but rapidly pivots to grandiose devaluation of Pence. This oscillation — wounded then dominant — is characteristic of the narcissistic injury response cycle. **Rage assessment:** Present at moderate intensity. Not the explosive ALL CAPS rage seen in higher-intensity posts; this is controlled contempt. Proportionality is markedly low — Pence appearing on television triggers an attack deploying poll numbers, financial status, and advisor blame. The target is Pence's entire public existence, not merely his statement. --- ## Defense Mechanisms 1. **Denial (pathological):** "I never said for him to put me before the Constitution—I don't talk that way, and wouldn't even think to suggest it." This is a flat denial of conduct documented by testimony, contemporaneous notes, the Eastman memos, and Pence's own account. The emphatic formulation ("I don't talk that way") is a distancing move that attempts to reframe the denial as a character claim rather than a factual one. 2. **Distortion (pathological):** Reframing Pence's documented account as "making up stories" — actively reshaping an evidence-rich historical record into fiction. 3. **Devaluation (immature):** Pence's 2% polling is deployed not merely as political observation but as moral and epistemic proof: *because* he polls at 2%, he was wrong about January 6. This is a consequentialist logical inversion — outcome validates conduct — which serves to insulate Trump's own conduct from scrutiny. 4. **Rationalization (neurotic):** "He obviously did the wrong thing" is grounded entirely in electoral consequences, not constitutional or ethical reasoning. This converts a legal/moral argument into a political performance metric. 5. **Displacement (neurotic):** Final sentence attributes Pence's entire political trajectory to his "advisors," diffusing accountability away from Pence's autonomous judgment — which would imply Pence has genuine, credible moral standing. --- ## DARVO Pattern (Gaslighting) A textbook DARVO sequence is present: - **Deny:** "I never said for him to put me before the Constitution" - **Attack:** "Mike Pence make up stories about me, which are absolutely false" - **Reverse Victim and Offender:** Trump positions himself as the wronged party watching lies on TV, while Pence — who faced genuine physical danger on January 6 partly as a result of Trump's actions — is recast as the aggressor spreading falsehoods This is not incidental rhetorical strategy; it is the psychologically necessary response to an accusation that, if accepted, would collapse Trump's self-exculpatory narrative about January 6. --- ## Fact Verification | Claim | Verdict | Evidence | |-------|---------|----------| | "I never said for him to put me before the Constitution—I don't talk that way, and wouldn't even think to suggest it" | **Mostly False** | Multiple witnesses testified under oath to Trump's pressure campaign on Pence. The Eastman memos outlined the legal strategy Trump endorsed. Pence's own memoir and public statements, contemporaneous notes from advisors, and the Jan. 6 Committee record all document sustained pressure. Trump reportedly told Pence 'You don't have the courage to do what should be done.' The precise quoted phrasing may not be verbatim, but the substantive claim that no such pressure occurred is contradicted by extensive documentation. | | "Mike failed badly on calling out Voter Fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election" | **False** | Presupposes systemic fraud existed that Pence should have acted on. No federal court, state election board, or law enforcement agency found evidence of fraud sufficient to alter the 2020 result. Over 60 court cases challenging results were dismissed or rejected. AG Barr publicly stated DOJ found no evidence of widespread fraud. | | "He is at approximately 2% in the Polls" | **Mostly True** | Pence's 2024 Republican primary polling throughout mid-to-late 2023 consistently ranged from 2-5%, making 'approximately 2%' a defensible if floor-seeking characterization. | Overall Veracity: 33% ## Rhetorical Analysis - **Ad hominem via polling:** Substitutes electoral weakness for substantive rebuttal — Pence is wrong *because* he is failing, rather than failing *because* he is wrong. - **False consequentialism:** Poll numbers treated as moral validation ("he obviously did the wrong thing"). - **Credibility attack framing:** "Make up stories" is chosen over "lies" — softer but more dismissive, implying delusional confabulation rather than deliberate falsehood. - **Temporal anchor:** "For 7 years Mike Pence only spoke well of me" (companion post) — establishes a baseline of loyalty against which the "betrayal" is measured, activating contamination narrative. - **Delegation of blame:** "His advisors have led him down a very bad path" — removes Pence's moral agency, which paradoxically undermines the attack (if advisors led him astray, Pence is a passive actor, which softens him as a villain). No dehumanizing language. No violent imagery. No stochastic terrorism indicators. --- ## Multi-Level Personality Analysis **Level 1 — Traits:** Dominant facets: Angry hostility (N6), Assertiveness (E1), Very low Agreeableness (antagonism, distrust). Moderate Conscientiousness suppressed by impulsive reactivity. **Level 2 — Motives:** Pure **agency** register — power, status, dominance. Zero communion content. Pence's 2% framing is status-hierarchy reinforcement: Trump dominates, Pence is subordinate and failing. **Level 3 — Narrative Identity:** - **Protagonist role:** Wronged truth-teller; loyal patron betrayed - **Contamination sequence:** 7-year loyal VP → "Dark Side" betrayer - **Identity claim:** "I don't talk that way" — asserting a constitutional reverence he is simultaneously being criminally charged for violating - **Contrasting other:** Pence as weak, advisor-led, poll-struggling failure vs. Trump as dominant, self-directed, polling leader **Level 4 — Clinical:** This post is consistent with the broader pattern of malignant narcissism: grandiosity maintained through devaluation, paranoid framing of public critique as fabrication, antisocial disregard for documented evidentiary record, and an absence of any capacity to register Pence's perspective as legitimate. The Georgia arraignment context — involving the precise conduct being discussed — adds a dissociative quality to the denial; Trump appears genuinely incapable of integrating the legal and testimonial record with his self-narrative. --- ## Cognitive Status No markers of acute cognitive disruption. Sentence construction is coherent. No phonemic or semantic paraphasia. The logical fallacies present (consequentialism as moral proof) are consistent with Trump's established baseline rhetorical patterns rather than new cognitive deterioration. Complexity is mid-range and stable relative to prior posts. **No deviation from established baseline warranting clinical note.** --- ## Archetypal Analysis **Warrior archetype** dominates — Pence is an enemy to be dispatched, and the dispatch is accomplished via polling numbers. The **Shadow** is projected: Trump's own constitutional endangerment of Pence is attributed inversely as Pence "failing" to act constitutionally. The **Victim/Hero oscillation** is present — briefly wounded by TV watching, then dominant through devaluation. --- ## Danger Assessment **Level: NONE (for this post in isolation).** No eliminationist language, no mobilization rhetoric, no dehumanization. The companion context — Proud Boys sentencing, Georgia arraignment — is legally significant but this post does not escalate to danger thresholds. ## Authorship Analysis **Self-Written** (score: 72%) ### Indicators - 'Was just watching' — reactive present-tense TV-watching construction, classic authentic Trump tell - Logical non-sequitur deploying poll numbers as moral proof — signature Trumpian rhetorical tic - Companion post same day uses identical style and target (Pence 'Dark Side') - Exclamation point closing with fragmented final sentence - 15:05 EDT — business hours creates ambiguity, but content is emotionally reactive not logistical ## Psychological Profile ### State **Mixed State** **Trigger:** Narcissistic Injury — Exposure (Mike Pence television appearance) **Rage:** Intensity 55% targeting Mike Pence - Proportionality: 20% Sentiment: -0.52 **Mildly Hypomanic** - Multiple posts in single day spanning Nixon letters to Pence attacks — elevated output volume - Reactive TV-watching and immediate posting suggests low impulse latency - Energy and combativeness maintained despite simultaneous Georgia arraignment proceedings ### Clinical **Malignant Narcissism:** - Narcissistic: 82% - Antisocial: 61% - Paranoid: 65% - Sadism: 35% **Defense Mechanisms:** - denial (pathological) - distortion (pathological) - devaluation (immature) - rationalization (neurotic) - displacement (neurotic) **Cognitive Complexity:** - Complexity: 42% **Parasocial Techniques:** - Direct confessional ('Was just watching') creates intimacy with audience as shared TV viewers - Positions followers as witnesses to injustice - Devaluation of Pence's poll numbers invites audience to confirm their own correct alignment with the dominant figure ## Danger Assessment **NONE** ### Gaslighting - Denial of documented pressure campaign contradicted by sworn testimony and physical documentary evidence (Eastman memos) - DARVO: Deny (never said it) → Attack (Pence 'making up stories') → Reverse (Trump as wronged viewer, Pence as aggressor) - Framing Pence's account as fabrication ('stories') rather than testimony, neutralizing his evidentiary standing - Rhetorical character claim ('I don't talk that way') substituted for factual rebuttal — shifts burden to defending Trump's identity rather than disputing specific conduct ## Fact Checks (3) _The model's verdicts from 2026-03-20._ > I never said for him to put me before the Constitution—I don't talk that way, and wouldn't even think to suggest it **MOSTLY FALSE** Multiple witnesses testified under oath to Trump's pressure campaign on Pence. The Eastman memos outlined the legal strategy Trump endorsed. Pence's own memoir and public statements, contemporaneous notes from advisors, and the Jan. 6 Committee record all document sustained pressure. Trump reportedly told Pence 'You don't have the courage to do what should be done.' The precise quoted phrasing may not be verbatim, but the substantive claim that no such pressure occurred is contradicted by extensive documentation. Sources: Jan. 6 Committee testimony and report; Eastman memos (entered into evidence); Pence memoir and public statements; Marc Short and Greg Jacob contemporaneous accounts > Mike failed badly on calling out Voter Fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election **FALSE** Presupposes systemic fraud existed that Pence should have acted on. No federal court, state election board, or law enforcement agency found evidence of fraud sufficient to alter the 2020 result. Over 60 court cases challenging results were dismissed or rejected. AG Barr publicly stated DOJ found no evidence of widespread fraud. Sources: 60+ post-election court rulings; AG William Barr December 2020 statement; CISA 'most secure election' statement > He is at approximately 2% in the Polls **MOSTLY TRUE** Pence's 2024 Republican primary polling throughout mid-to-late 2023 consistently ranged from 2-5%, making 'approximately 2%' a defensible if floor-seeking characterization. Sources: RealClearPolitics 2024 Republican primary polling aggregates, August-September 2023 Overall Veracity: 33% ## Tags - narcissistic-injury-response (92%) - DARVO (88%) - january-6-denial (85%) - pence-attack (83%) - georgia-arraignment-context (78%) - reality-distortion (75%) - devaluation (72%) - consequentialist-epistemology (68%) - authentic-trump (65%) - gaslighting (82%) ## That day _From trump.fm's machine-generated digest of the day, not his words._ **Arraignment Day Silence Breaks Into a Storm of Grievance and Retribution** Trump spent the day of his formal Georgia arraignment on 13 felony charges without once mentioning the proceedings directly, instead flooding his feed with dozens of supportive articles and attacks on rivals. The afternoon brought a massive staff-managed burst of link-sharing -- legal counter-narratives, debate-dominance stories, and Nixon comparison pieces -- building a wall of distraction around the legal threat. Things turned personal when Trump took over the keyboard, savaging Mike Pence for criticizing him on television, promising to jail his prosecutors if re-elected, and closing the day by publicly demolishing Ann Coulter. The mood was a volatile mix of defiance and grievance, with the legal pressure visible not in what he said about it, but in how aggressively he talked about everything else. Full digest for 2023-09-06: https://trump.fm/date/2023-09-06/analysis ## Citation - APA: Trump, D. J. (2023, September 6). Was just watching Mike Pence make up stories... [Social media post]. Truth Social. trump.fm. https://trump.fm/post/ts_111019762094553476 - MLA: Trump, Donald J. "Was just watching Mike Pence make up stories about me,..." Truth Social, 6 Sep. 2023. trump.fm, https://trump.fm/post/ts_111019762094553476. Accessed 9 Oct. 2026. - Chicago: Donald J. 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