# Post ts_108492662144264318

- Post ID: `ts_108492662144264318`
- Platform: Truth Social
- Posted: 2022-06-17T11:50:46.494Z (UTC)
- Deleted: no
- Repost: no
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## Post text

> Such LIES &amp; MISREPRESENTATIONS by the Unselects, and absolutely nobody allowed to challenge what is being said. As an example, I never suggested to V.P. Pence to “overturn” the Election (although Thomas Jefferson “took” the Georgia votes), but that he send the votes back to the various Legislatures so that they could determine if the Irregularities and Fraud were as widespread and significant as they seemed. Time has proven voter fraud to be even more flagrant, the Election was Rigged &amp; Stolen!

## Engagement

- Likes: 34,159
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- Metrics collected: 2026-02-01T01:19:51.440Z (UTC)

# Analysis

_Machine-generated by trump.fm on 2026-03-19T20:51:47.575Z (UTC): a model's reading of this post, not his words. Its psychological terms describe the language, not a clinical assessment of him._

## Summary

Post is a morning-after reactive response to the Jan 6 Committee's second public hearing and Barr's "detached from reality" testimony. The central defense — "I never suggested to V.P. Pence to 'overturn' the Election" — constitutes categorical denial of extensively documented conduct (Eastman memos, witness testimony, Trump's own contemporaneous statements). A complete DARVO sequence is present: Deny, Attack ("LIES & MISREPRESENTATIONS by the Unselects"), Reverse Victim/Offender. The psychologically most significant element is the Thomas Jefferson parenthetical, deployed as historical legitimization for Trump's request to Pence. This analogy is factually inverted: Jefferson in 1801 ruled to count disputed Georgia votes, not return them to the legislature — the opposite of what Trump asked Pence to do. Whether this reflects deliberate distortion or genuine historical confabulation, it represents significant reality distortion serving defensive rationalization. Mixed narcissistic state is present: grandiose vindication framing ("Time has proven") coexists with vulnerable/persecutory framing ("nobody allowed to challenge"), consistent with destabilized narcissistic equilibrium following public injury by a former loyalist (Barr). Epistemic closure promotion: the false claim that the hearings allow no challenge primes followers to dismiss contradictory evidence as suppression rather than engaging its substance. Four verifiable factual claims in the post are rated false or mostly false. Danger level elevated for downstream radicalization contribution; no direct incitement language present.

# Psychological Analysis — Truth Social Post, June 17, 2022

## Authorship Attribution
**Score: 0.87 (authentic)** — High confidence. Post timestamp converts to ~7:50 AM EDT (Trump likely at Bedminster NJ). The early morning window, ALL CAPS emotional signaling, parenthetical tangent style, and reactive framing against the previous day's Jan 6 hearing are consistent with authentic composition under emotional activation.

## Context and Trigger
The January 6 Committee's second public hearing aired June 16. Former AG Barr testified Trump was "detached from reality" and called fraud claims "idiotic" and "bogus." This post is a direct morning-after injury response. The narcissistic wound is multi-layered: public exposure by a former loyalist (Barr), testimony contradicting his self-narrative, and televised proceedings he could not control.

## Psychological State: Mixed Narcissistic (Grandiose + Vulnerable)
The post oscillates between states:
- **Vulnerable/persecutory**: "absolutely nobody allowed to challenge what is being said"
- **Grandiose/vindicated**: "Time has proven voter fraud to be even more flagrant"

This oscillation is consistent with the destabilized narcissistic state following significant public injury.

## Defense Mechanism Analysis

### Primary: Denial (Pathological Level)
"I never suggested to V.P. Pence to 'overturn' the Election" — flatly denies conduct extensively documented in witness testimony, Eastman memos, and contemporaneous accounts. This is not qualification; it is categorical denial of documented events.

### Secondary: Rationalization + Distortion (via Jefferson)
The Jefferson parenthetical is the most psychologically significant element. Trump inserts "although Thomas Jefferson 'took' the Georgia votes" as historical legitimization for asking Pence to act as he did. The historical record inverts this analogy: in 1801, Jefferson as VP-President of the Senate ruled **to count** Georgia's disputed electoral votes — the opposite of returning them to the legislature. This distortion functions to normalize an unprecedented constitutional maneuver through false founding-era precedent. Whether deliberate or confabulatory, it represents significant reality distortion.

### Tertiary: Projection
Accuses the committee of "LIES & MISREPRESENTATIONS" while making demonstrably false claims in the same post.

## DARVO Sequence (Complete)
- **Deny**: "I never suggested to V.P. Pence to 'overturn' the Election"
- **Attack**: "Such LIES & MISREPRESENTATIONS by the Unselects"
- **Reverse Victim/Offender**: Committee is lying; he is the one being wrongly accused; nobody allowed to challenge; "Rigged & Stolen"

## Semantic Hairsplitting as Rhetorical Defense
The distinction between "overturn the Election" and "send the votes back to the various Legislatures" attempts to reframe the Eastman plan as a modest administrative request. Legal scholars and committee testimony have established these are functionally equivalent in the constitutional context — the latter would have had the same practical effect of preventing certification. This is lawyerly reasoning deployed without legal validity.

## Narrative Identity: Level 3 Analysis
- **Protagonist role**: Wronged fighter/victim fighting suppression of truth
- **Narrative sequence**: Contamination (legitimate victory corrupted by fraud and false accusation)
- **Identity claims**: Honest actor who made a constitutionally modest request; vindicated by history
- **Contrasting other**: "Unselects" — illegitimate, biased committee; "Fake News Networks"

## Personality Trait Salience (Big Five)
- **Very low agreeableness**: No acknowledgment of validity in opposing view; combative throughout
- **High extraversion/assertiveness**: Commanding register throughout
- **High neuroticism (angry hostility facet)**: Emotional capitalization, reactive framing
- **Low openness to values revision**: Rigid repetition of "Rigged & Stolen" despite mounting contradictory evidence

## Motives (Level 2)
Dominant **agency/power** motive: controlling the narrative, demanding equal time (see prior posts), denying the validity of institutional accountability mechanisms. Communion motives near-absent.

## Cognitive Status Markers
No significant new cognitive markers beyond baseline. The Jefferson tangent shows tangentiality and potential historical confabulation but could also be deliberate distortion. The post's syntactic complexity is within normal Trump range. Perseveration on "Rigged & Stolen" is consistent with prior baseline; not new degradation.

## Gaslighting Assessment
**Present.** The post denies a documented event ("I never suggested to V.P. Pence to 'overturn' the Election"), attacks the credibility of the forum presenting evidence ("LIES & MISREPRESENTATIONS"), and reframes documented conduct in a legitimizing frame (Jefferson). Followers accepting this account must reject extensive testimonial and documentary record.

## Epistemic Closure
**Present.** The claim that "nobody allowed to challenge" is factually false — the hearing was a public proceeding; Republican members could participate; Trump's own lawyers were invited to present. The framing promotes epistemic closure by convincing followers that suppression of truth explains why evidence appears unfavorable.

## Archetypal Analysis
**Primary archetype: Victim/Warrior hybrid** — persecuted fighter who knows the truth being silenced by corrupt institutional power (the "Unselects"). Secondary: **Order-Restorer** — the election was stolen from proper order; he is the one who would restore it. **Shadow projection**: The dishonesty and procedural manipulation Trump is credibly accused of is projected wholesale onto the committee ("LIES & MISREPRESENTATIONS").

## Fact Verification

| Claim | Verdict | Evidence |
|-------|---------|----------|
| "I never suggested to V.P. Pence to 'overturn' the Election" | **False** | Eastman memos explicitly outlined scheme for Pence to reject or delay certification; multiple witnesses including close aides testified Trump directly pressured Pence; Trump's own January 6 speech referenced Pence's role; Pence's own memoir confirms the pressure campaign |
| "Thomas Jefferson 'took' the Georgia votes as VP precedent" | **Mostly False** | In 1801, Jefferson as President of the Senate presided over a dispute about Georgia's improperly signed electoral certificate. He ruled to COUNT the votes, accepting them despite the defective certificate. This is the inverse of what Trump asked Pence to do. No credible constitutional scholar accepts this as precedent for returning votes to state legislatures. |
| "Time has proven voter fraud to be even more flagrant" | **False** | As of June 2022, 60+ post-election lawsuits had been dismissed or decided against Trump's fraud claims. DOJ, CISA, Trump-appointed AG Barr, and election officials in contested states found no evidence of fraud sufficient to affect the outcome. No court had upheld a significant fraud finding. |
| "The Election was Rigged & Stolen" | **False** | Rejected by courts across party lines, Department of Justice, Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, Republican secretaries of state in contested states (Raffensperger, Russi), and Trump's own advisors including Barr, Meadows, and Ivanka Trump (per testimony). |

Overall Veracity: 5%

## Danger Assessment: **Elevated**
No explicit violence or eliminationist language in this post. However, it continues the delegitimization narrative that provided ideological fuel for January 6, specifically by: (1) denying wrongdoing in documented conduct related to that event, (2) asserting the election was stolen in the context of ongoing hearings about consequences of that claim, and (3) positioning the accountability process itself as illegitimate suppression. The danger is downstream radicalization rather than direct incitement.

## Continuity with Prior Posts
Post is continuous with the June 16 cluster: "EQUAL TIME" demand, "Unselects" framing, "Witch Hunt" language. Today's post adds the constitutionally-specific denial and the historically-distorted Jefferson rationalization — suggesting the overnight hours were spent constructing a legal-sounding defense that, on examination, misrepresents its own historical precedent.

## Authorship Analysis

**Self-Written** (score: 87%)

### Indicators

- 7:50 AM EDT (UTC-4) — early morning post consistent with authentic Trump window
- ALL CAPS emphasis ('LIES & MISREPRESENTATIONS') characteristic of authentic emotional arousal
- Stream-of-consciousness parenthetical aside ('although Thomas Jefferson "took" the Georgia votes') typical of authentic Trump tangential reasoning
- Impulsive semantic hairsplitting as defensive maneuver rather than polished aide framing
- Nickname coinage ('Unselects') consistent with authentic Trump rhetorical habit

## Psychological Profile

### State

**Mixed State**

**Trigger:** Narcissistic Injury — Criticism (January 6 Committee second hearing; Bill Barr testimony calling him 'detached from reality'; public broadcast of witnesses contradicting his self-narrative)

**Rage:** Intensity 68% targeting January 6 Select Committee and Pence testimony/witnesses
- Proportionality: 20%

Sentiment: -0.78

**Mildly Hypomanic**
- Early morning posting (7:50 AM) following likely overnight rumination on hearing testimony
- Rapid sequential posting across June 16-17 cluster (equal time demand → endorsements → this denial)
- Elevated emotional intensity and urgency in register
- Grandiose vindication framing ('Time has proven') despite adverse evidentiary environment

### Clinical

**Malignant Narcissism:**
- Narcissistic: 82%
- Antisocial: 65%
- Paranoid: 71%
- Sadism: 22%

**Defense Mechanisms:**
- denial (pathological)
- rationalization (neurotic)
- distortion (pathological)
- projection (immature)

**Cognitive Complexity:**
- Complexity: 52%

Cognitive Markers:
- tangentiality
- confabulation

**Parasocial Techniques:**
- Invites audience into shared grievance ('nobody allowed to challenge')
- Appeals to collective vindication ('Time has proven') converting personal claim to community validation
- Positions followers as co-victims of information suppression

## Danger Assessment

**ELEVATED**

### Indicators

- Continued delegitimization of Jan 6 accountability process — same narrative that provided ideological fuel for the event under investigation
- Denial of documented conduct related to attempted interference with electoral certification normalizes the conduct for followers
- False 'suppression' framing ('nobody allowed to challenge') promotes epistemic closure that prevents followers from engaging contradictory evidence
- Persistent 'Rigged & Stolen' claim in context of ongoing hearings maintains grievance activation in radicalized segment of audience

### Gaslighting

- Categorical denial of documented events ('I never suggested to V.P. Pence to overturn the Election') contradicted by Eastman memos, witness testimony, and contemporaneous accounts
- False framing of public televised hearings as closed/suppressive process ('absolutely nobody allowed to challenge') — attacks audience's capacity to verify the claim themselves
- DARVO sequence: denies role → attacks accusers as liars → repositions self as victim of 'LIES & MISREPRESENTATIONS'
- Inverted historical analogy (Jefferson) presented with false confidence to make distorted claim appear researched and authoritative
- Escalating 'Rigged & Stolen' assertion presented as newly proven fact ('Time has proven') despite no new evidentiary development — reframes persistent repetition as vindication

## Fact Checks (4)

_The model's verdicts from 2026-03-19._

> I never suggested to V.P. Pence to 'overturn' the Election

**FALSE**

Eastman memos explicitly outlined scheme for Pence to reject or delay certification; multiple witnesses including close aides testified Trump directly pressured Pence; Trump's own January 6 speech referenced Pence's role; Pence's own memoir confirms the pressure campaign

Sources: Jan 6 Committee testimony; Eastman memo record; Pence memoir 'So Help Me God'

> Thomas Jefferson 'took' the Georgia votes as VP precedent

**MOSTLY FALSE**

In 1801, Jefferson as President of the Senate presided over a dispute about Georgia's improperly signed electoral certificate. He ruled to COUNT the votes, accepting them despite the defective certificate. This is the inverse of what Trump asked Pence to do. No credible constitutional scholar accepts this as precedent for returning votes to state legislatures.

Sources: 1801 electoral count historical record; Constitutional law scholarship

> Time has proven voter fraud to be even more flagrant

**FALSE**

As of June 2022, 60+ post-election lawsuits had been dismissed or decided against Trump's fraud claims. DOJ, CISA, Trump-appointed AG Barr, and election officials in contested states found no evidence of fraud sufficient to affect the outcome. No court had upheld a significant fraud finding.

Sources: Federal court records; CISA 'most secure election' statement; Barr DOJ internal findings

> The Election was Rigged & Stolen

**FALSE**

Rejected by courts across party lines, Department of Justice, Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, Republican secretaries of state in contested states (Raffensperger, Russi), and Trump's own advisors including Barr, Meadows, and Ivanka Trump (per testimony).

Sources: Jan 6 Committee testimony; Court records; CISA election security statement

Overall Veracity: 5%

## Tags

- jan6_committee_response (95%)
- DARVO (92%)
- narcissistic_injury_response (88%)
- election_denial (97%)
- historical_revisionism (85%)
- pence_pressure_denial (93%)
- epistemic_closure (82%)
- gaslighting (87%)
- pathological_denial (89%)
- barr_injury_response (78%)

## That day

_From trump.fm's machine-generated digest of the day, not his words._

**Morning-After Damage Control: Jan 6 Committee Hearings Spark DARVO Defense and Apocalyptic Displacement**

Trump spent the morning pushing back hard against the January 6 Committee hearings, categorically denying he asked Pence to overturn the election and calling the proceedings rigged. He pivoted quickly from personal defense to a sweeping doom-and-gloom narrative about stolen elections and unchecked immigration, casting himself as the lone champion of forgotten Americans. By late morning, the tone shifted entirely as he promoted his afternoon speech at a Faith & Freedom Coalition conference in Nashville -- a classic move from grievance to adulation-seeking.

Full digest for 2022-06-17: https://trump.fm/date/2022-06-17/analysis

## Citation

- APA: Trump, D. J. (2022, June 17). Such LIES &amp; MISREPRESENTATIONS by the... [Social media post]. Truth Social. trump.fm. https://trump.fm/post/ts_108492662144264318
- MLA: Trump, Donald J. "Such LIES &amp; MISREPRESENTATIONS by the Unselects, and..." Truth Social, 17 Jun. 2022. trump.fm, https://trump.fm/post/ts_108492662144264318. Accessed 9 Oct. 2026.
- Chicago: Donald J. Trump, "Such LIES &amp; MISREPRESENTATIONS by the Unselects, and...," Truth Social, June 17, 2022, archived at trump.fm, https://trump.fm/post/ts_108492662144264318.

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