>> Just on the shutdown, do you think that Trump should get directly involved here, get the leaders in the room, try to figure out a way out of this? >> Well, I've got mixed feelings about it. Ultimately, before we can reach an agreement, the President will have to be involved. But I don't know what the President would have to trade today. I don't know what we have to trade today. My Democratic friends keep saying, well, we want you to automatically renew, apparently forever, the subsidies to the Affordable Care Act. But even if we renew the subsidies, it's not gonna fix the problems in the Affordable Care Act. Any increases that people see in November are a result of the fact that the Affordable Care Act, I mean, it just hasn't worked. When it was passed, we were told that it would make health insurance affordable. It obviously hasn't. It would make it more accessible, it hasn't. You have to go on an exchange that's created by the government. You can't just go into the private market, and it's been very expensive. And to me, the whole thing's broken. And I would like to see the Congress, the Senate sit down and say, subsidies are no subsidies. What can we do since this is costing people so much money to try to fix it? You're not gonna do that over a weekend. You're not gonna do that over a week. It's gonna take a while. And that's why, if my Democratic friends stick to their guns and say we're not going to open up government until you tell us your plan and we want to make sure it works for fixing the healthcare delivery system, we're gonna be shut down a long time. Right now, I think this will be the longest shutdown in the history of ever. And I don't say that happily. I don't say that proudly. I'm just saying that realistically. Do you go to past Thanksgiving? I do. I do. I just don't see what's gonna get us out of it. Because what my Democratic colleagues are asking for, you know this. It's just not realistic. I mean, it's just not realistic. If they were asking for something that was reasonable, I would say it was something we could negotiate. But to insist that we just renew all of the subsidies for the Broken Affordable Care Act, that we repeal all the healthcare provisions of the one big beautiful bill, that we put up 500 million dollars, half a billion dollars for corporation for public broadcasting. That's unreasonable. They know we're not gonna do that. Okay. Appreciate the time. All right, man. See you later.
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