29 posts from Friday, September 6, 2024

That's why I'm so deeply honored to receive the Fraternal Order of Police official endorsement for President of the United States. Thank you all very much in the room. I know you vote on this. (Applause.) Thank you very much. (Applause.) Great honor. (Applause.) Thank you very much. Thank you, Patrick. I want to thank Patrick and every officer here this afternoon. It's really something I will not forget -- 373,000. And, you know, Patrick just corrected the teleprompter. (Laughter.) How did you add the other 4,000 people? They want to join so badly because they think we're going to win. Everyone now wants to be doing that, huh? He said he doesn't think he knows. Thank you very much. So, to think that numbers like that -- I mean, that's a big group. That's the largest group in the country, by far, I guess, right?

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-Everyday expenses have skyrocketed by double digits since Biden and Harris both took office. -Since then, the burden of record-high inflation has continued to push the limits for people across the country. -A number of Americans living paycheck to paycheck jumped to 61%. -A domestic policy, economic policy, immigration policy, foreign policy, energy policy, law and order -- all of it is downright dangerous. -Americans are hurting. -But we have to go forward now. -The country needs a win in this. -And there's only one person who can make that vision a reality. Donald J. Trump! -I will fight to you with every breath in my body. -It's the most resilient human being I've ever been. -We will defend America against all threats and protect America against all dangers. -He brought manufacturing back to America. Small businesses flourished. He did what he promised. He put America first. -You had a prosperity under Trump. People's incomes were going up. -Not only did he keep his promise, but the results are there to show. -We will never give in, we will never give up, and we will never stop fighting for our country, our flag, and our freedom. -There is no bulldozer strong enough to remove the legacy that he has built. -I will never stop fighting for you.

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with me now the 5 co-hosts judge Jeanine Pirro, a former New York State judge and district attorney, a ton of experience with all of this. There's another picture of Jeanine. It's another life. How are you? Good to have you here today. So what's your reaction to Judge Rishon moving? You are? I am stunned. Look, this is a judge who at every turn ruled against Donald Trump. This is a judge who allowed prejudicial evidence to come in, evidence that had nothing to do with the underlying charge. And speaking of the underlying charge, most of it is expired pursuant to the statute of limitations, bootstrapped and resurrected by another crime that the jury didn't have to really identify. And there's a lot of hearsay and there's some privileged information. Then in the interim is a Supreme Court decision that came out in July that said, hey, you know, you have to separate immunity or immunize and privilege testimony from the underlying essence of the crimes in this case. And now all of a sudden Judge Rishon is saying, well, I don't want to be political here. I think it's time that we took, you know, took note of the fact that we're in a presidential election season. Are you kidding me? This is a political decision made by a judge who said, you know what, this is a close election. I'm not going to give Donald Trump any kind of advantage here. That's my interpretation based upon a judge who did everything he could. Even the verdict sheet in this case is not, you don't, you can't understand it. I've never seen anything like it. And so now suddenly the DA, Martha agrees, the DA says, we're not going to object to his sentencing. They want to throw him in jail, but they know that this is a case that will that will go in Trump's favor and they don't want that to happen. So this is Alvin Bragg. There's so many cases that we've been keeping straight, but this was, this was the hush money case. And you remember that Alvin Bragg basically took something that was beyond the statute of limitations and extrapolated it into, I think 34 counts. It was in the end, which had people outraged back then. Do you think that they are now looking at this situation and that they got cold feet? I mean, at one point, Marshawn did say back in the courtroom, you know, it's not lost on me that I have someone here who may be the next president of the United States. Do you think that they just said, you know what, we don't, we don't really want this on our shoulders. Well, I think that it is inevitable that this case will be reversed. And I think that maybe Marshawn did everything he had to do, that he allowed in testimony regarding a crime that nobody knows what it was. And that in the end, they will be able to say that Donald Trump is a convicted felon. He's been convicted on 34 counts, but you know what, we're going to delay this sentencing because maybe if they had this sentencing and Donald Trump took an appeal, depending upon how quickly the appellate court wanted to rule on this, I mean, this is an important case where exigent circumstances would require an appellate court to take it up immediately. They don't want to be slapped down either. So I mean, there are so many avenues here in this case, but the one thing that is so essential to understand, Martha, is that every turn was against Donald Trump. Now all of a sudden we're clean. We don't want to get involved in anything political. It's a presidential election season and we're going to, we're going to just adjourn the sentencing until after election. And by the way, Jack Smith got a superseding indictment, right? Georgia's nowhere at that case. We don't know even know who the prosecutor is. You were Sean doesn't want to be hanging alone on this where he's definitely going to be slapped. Let me ask you this, which is a purely political question about all of this, because there was clearly a big rush in all these cases. Jack Smith wanted his cases, which were January 6th in the documents case, which got thrown out by the judge in Florida. They wanted all this to happen before the election. Do you think that the fact that Kamala Harris is now the candidate has made them cool their heels a little bit, that they're less worried about a second president Trump term? They may look at it and say, you know, the, the, it looks tight. And that's why I go back to the political that this little bit where if you put or sentence of someone running for president on house arrest or whatever confinement, the country will go crazy. We are a Republic. We are, this is the United States. You don't put someone running for president in jail or house confined about November 26th when we'll know, I mean, whether he's the next president or he is not, or he loses the election. Will there be a sentencing then they will have to make a decision first on the immunity part of this based on the Supreme court's decision that will then be appealed. And then they would probably go to a sentencing. But here's the thing. If he's president, they can't put him in jail at that point. Okay. Because he's got to run the country. Yeah. You know, there's a lot of, a lot of avenues on this one, but I've never seen them say, we don't want to be political now. Yeah. You know, we're, we're within two months of this election. So this obviously would have had a big bearing on it. It may have helped Trump if he was sentenced every single move along the way here, the more he was persecuted by the legal system, the more it helped him. But this one is off the table for now. Judge, always great to see you. Thank you so much for coming. I will see you on the five.

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Um, so we went over this last hour, but we may have an entirely new audience this hour. So give us your thoughts on the prudence of what the judge did in this case. Well, it was the right decision because Judge Michonne might have ended up not just the judge who, uh, imprisoned Donald Trump. He could have been the judge that reelected Donald Trump. I mean, the, if he, if he actually did impose jail, uh, as Carl Rove noted, that could have been just the catalyst needed, uh, to put Trump over the top. Uh, that's an example of how, uh, curious this calendar is for any type of sentencing. It also means that because of the dates selected here, uh, that the election's going to have a huge impact on sentencing. Uh, if Donald Trump is reelected, uh, as president, uh, then it seems very unlikely that Michonne, uh, would sentence him to jail. It's also unlikely that he could succeed in keeping him in jail because of the conflict with his presidential duties. If he, if Trump loses the election, then indeed that might make it easier for Michonne to do precisely that. So the election has really grown in considerable importance in terms of this sentencing. But keep in mind, whatever Michonne does, uh, it doesn't change what he previously did in this case. I think that he has committed layers of reversible error. I think there was evidence at his trial that the Supreme Court would view as privileged and should not have been before the jury. So there is a long, uh, runway between here and there when it comes to any jail sentence. All right. So we are getting a brand new reaction through our own Brooke Singman here who just spoke to the former president following the judge's decision. He tells her the case was delayed. Because everyone realizes there was no case and I did nothing wrong. He says, he also adds that as a case, it is a case that should have never been brought Jonathan. Uh, the public understands that and so does every legal scholar that has looked at it and studied it. I greatly respect the words of necessary being used in the decision because there should be no, if necessary, the case should be dead. It says the former president and brand new remarks to Fox, Jonathan. I certainly agree that this case should never have been brought. I think the former president is correct. This is a political case. Uh, it's a case based on rather novel interpretations of the law. I'm not too sure those interpretations will withstand a review, but I think that the case is overtly political. It was the weakest of the cases, uh, in my view, uh, to go forward. So I believe the former president is right on that front. Uh, the question now, uh, is how these appeals will play out. The president has a rather target rich environment, uh, with this trial. Uh, there are a lot of things here that I think could be reversible. Uh, in some respects, I expect that people in the Trump camp, uh, almost quietly hoped that Michonne would continue his record in the case. Michonne, uh, was quite one sided, uh, in his rulings. I sat in that courtroom and I was astonished by how he consistently ruled against the Trump, uh, team. Even when in my view, they were clearly correct in the motions that they were making. But still you got unanimous decision from 12 jurors, maybe not on the underlying predicate crime, but in the overall crime, you got unanimous decisions so that, you know, they seem to agree with what the prosecution was selling. Um, so this is up, so I think it's, no, I think it's also important to remember what they rendered their ruling on. I've been critical of the jurors. I'm critical of the judge. He told those jurors that they didn't even have to agree what occurred in the case. He gave them various possible reasons why acts were committed and he didn't even force them to record how they voted on what really occurred. All of that is part of the novelty in my view of this case that should be reviewed. Yeah. That was the point I was making that they might not have had unanimity on the underlying predicate crime, but they did in the overall aspect of the case. But you understand politics as well as you understand the law. Now that this is off the table, there will be no sentencing between now and November the fifth. Uh, the voting was supposed to start in North Carolina, but because of a lawsuit that Bobby Kennedy has filed to get his name off the ballot, they've delayed sending out those ballots or letting people vote, um, until time to be determined in the future. We don't know when that's going to be, but what do you think now is the overall effect on the election? If there is any at all, well, first of all, these ballot fights are rather curious. The Michigan secretary of state previously tried to get a popular candidate off the ballot and she's now fighting to keep a non-existent candidate on the ballot because I, I, many people view this as a rather political agenda, uh, to pull away votes from the former president in North Carolina. They said they could switch ballots, but it might take a week. Well, they're going to spend more than that in litigation. So there's a lot of question as to why these democratic secretaries of state are clinging on to Kennedy, uh, to keep him on these ballots in very close states. Now this ruling is going to have an impact, uh, in the sense that many people, I think, correctly viewed New York as lawfare, correctly viewed this as a political case, uh, any sentencing that Michonne would have come down with, I think would have not, uh, been particularly welcomed by most of the public. It would have reminded them of this, this, this campaign again against the former president. So in some ways, I think the Harris campaign is probably celebrating, uh, that they won't have that attention on the Manhattan case. Uh, really something here, um, just looking for, for more out of the letter itself and the implications for the case going forward, Jonathan, I'm sure you've had a chance to see it by now, uh, but using the words and phrases like wanted to avoid the appearance of however unwarded that proceeding had been, uh, that this had been affected by the election. Um, that's interesting, right? And not like we have heard that from this judge before. No, I mean, look, I, I support, I, I, you know, it was not one of those that was piling on Michonne, but I have to say after sitting in his courtroom, I was very surprised. And what I thought was a one sided approach to that trial, it reminded me of an old judge who used to say his defense ready to present its case and then say, are the prosecutors ready to present our case? I mean, the, uh, there was, uh, in my view, a lack of balance there. We have not heard this type of language from Michonne, uh, and he, he refused to do things during the trial that could have accommodated the environment in which the trial was occurring, including a gag order that I think was excessive. Uh, and the irony of course was that the president, the former president's polls went up when he was gagged partially, I think, because people saw the unfairness partially because he sort of stayed on script. But that may have weighed in all of this, Michonne actually witnessed how his conduct at the trial, the trial itself worked in Trump's favor. That would have been nothing, uh, in comparison to what would have happened if he sends Trump to home confinement or to jail. I think Michonne was aware of that. You know, it's funny. So many things have happened since this verdict was added up that, uh, I mean, this thing has been so far in the rear view mirror that you almost have to remind yourself of what happened during the trial. But here's what the spokesperson for, uh, DA Alvin Bragg's office said. A jury of 12 New Yorkers swiftly and unanimously convicted Donald Trump with 34 felony counts. The Manhattan DA's office stands ready for sentencing on the new date set by the court. Of course, the new date is the new date for the moment, but that could change too. It can, because remember there are a lot of appeals, uh, that are, are going forward. Uh, the Supreme Court, his decision on immunity does hit this case. It's true that much of the conduct in this case did not involve the president while he was in office. But some did. In fact, the critical payments that occurred, uh, occurred while he was in office. The prosecutors came back to that over and over again about his multitasking, paying these things off while he was president of the United States, the testimony of Hope Hicks. All of that can contaminate the trial. Now all of our expectation is that Michonne is the least likely judge, uh, to say, you know what, I can't really unravel all of that, let's have a new trial. Uh, but he's going to have to make a very convincing case for the appellate court because you know, the Supreme Court made very clear that they wanted breathing room for presidents. They did, they did not want these to be close questions as to when your former aides could pop up in court and testify against you in cases like this. All right, Jonathan, thank you very much for joining us via phone and then on camera, we We really appreciate you joining us here. He's everywhere.

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